Weired preflop situation

[recallme]

Game #4847436944: Hold'em NL (£1/£2) - 2007/06/28 - 00:13:30 (UK)
Table "Argi" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: janiz88 (£197 in chips)
Seat 2: Be_vegan (£136.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Fra220620 (£184.05 in chips)
Seat 4: unicoern (£490.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Tomcat1 (£18.82 in chips)
Seat 6: Chippy1 (£423.13 in chips)
Be_vegan: posts small blind £1
Fra220620: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to unicoern [Kh Ad]
unicoern: raises to £7
Tomcat1: raises to £18.82 and is all-in
Chippy1: calls £18.82
janiz88: folds
Be_vegan: folds
Fra220620: calls £16.82

No read here.
Am i 4 betting to 90 and willing to get it in or should i just calland reevaluate?

[FenixOnTilt]

you are mostly either flipping/splitting/70:30 vs the coldcallers, so raise it up to 100 and call a shove (or shove urself cause u r calling anyway). you don't want to see a 338 flop on this, there is already too much money in there.

[recallme]

Everyone thinking like that?

[recallme]

Anyone willing to help?

[CennyCripple]

I would probably jsut have called it. I wouldn't been afraid of Fra22... But Chippy1 call is suspicious I believe and u are playing it deep. If I believed he would have reraised with aces and kings I would have raised it but if I suspected he might just call behind (and if he was tight) I would only have called. You must have some kind of read since you are both deep

[Djeorge]

I would def 4bet here. I wouldn't expect chippy to play a big hand like this when we're this deep and fra is surely quite weak here. So I would try and take them off their hands right now and be willing to play a big pot if needs be. The fatc that you're oop vs chippy makes this even mnore of a 4bet imo.

[TheChad]

I'm confused as per the discussion.
we have a great hand here and the pot is built. Why bloat it even more before we hit anything? Two players are hangin with us. Why not just call essentially a minraise and see some cards?
I certainly would not shove or make a huge raise. That is just asking them to take our money if they have a hand.

[recallme]

The reason for the 4bet is, if chippy call again or pushes we can stilllay it down. If we just call we won`t get much action unless we are beat. Perhaps he playes At-AQ like that, but i really doubt it. Fra isn`t deap and why shouldn`t he raise with some big hand here?
The pot is big and i wouldn`t like to play vs 2 players OOP

[recallme]

Do you get me chad?

[a breath of air]

It doesn't look like the cold callers' ranges can call a 4-bet here, so I would most likely raise for value or to play the pot heads up with Seat 5. This is difficult without reads on how loose or tight the cold callers are.