QQ in 4b pot

[Kimpan]

this is the first orbit, opponent is numone86.

PartyPoker $200 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
MP ($194.20)
CO ($131.90) (72/52/5.67/33) (50h)
SB ($198)
BB ($186.80) (23/17/2.82/23) (2242h)
Hero ($202)

Preflop: Hero is BU with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
MP calls $2, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $23</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises to $70</font>, 2 folds, hero...

[thac]

lol fold.. why wouldn't you?

[Montezuma21]

looks like a thin call:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

58,218,336 games 0.050 secs 1,164,366,720 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.712% 52.49% 00.22% 30560878 126938.00 { KK+, JJ, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 47.288% 47.07% 00.22% 27403582 126938.00 { QhQs }

[thac]

Montezuma, you really think he cold 4-bets JJ?

[Kimpan]

I'm thinking his 4b range could be wider here... he sees me isolating a superdonk.

[Montezuma21]

[ QUOTE ]
lol fold.. why wouldn't you?

[/ QUOTE ]

because if villain's decent he must know we're going to be 3betting fishy very light, which would make JJ an automatic 4bet.

PS: also, villain will be calling with AA here a good % of the time hoping fishy will come along IMO.

[Montezuma21]

[ QUOTE ]
Montezuma, you really think he cold 4-bets JJ?

[/ QUOTE ]

absolutely. he knows flat calling with JJ would be suicide and that folding is bad because our range is huge. in villain's shoes this is a pretty std. 4bet for me.

[djshawk]

Running at 23/17 BB should be a thinking player and see that you are in position iso raising the 70/50 lagtard. I think this makes his 4 betting range much wider than a standard 4-betting range and would be inclined to push.

[Montezuma21]

let me put it another way:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

49,656,816 games 0.005 secs 9,931,363,200 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 19042240 923339.00 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 28767898 923339.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }


end thread.

[agnoke10]

its tough for me to see him playing AA/KK like this, i think this looks a lot more like TT, JJ , or AK here. its close, but i really think this is a steal a lot of the time.