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Old 07-20-2007, 11:14 PM
Jack Bando Jack Bando is offline
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Default New to HUTorneys. A few quick Q\'s.

How many games do you need before the numbers ($,ROI,VPIP...) matter?

And what are ok/good/great numbers for ROI,VPIP, ITM% in HU tourneys?
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:25 PM
ChicagoRy ChicagoRy is offline
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Default Re: New to HUTorneys. A few quick Q\'s.

ROI/winrate is really the only thing I would look at. I mean if some of your numbers are really really extreme like 5% or 95% PFR %, then yea you can tell they are messed up, but generally all the cash game #s aren't a big deal in HUSNG.

As for sample sizes for winrate and ROI, a few hundred games.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: New to HUTorneys. A few quick Q\'s.

yeah our fish usually find out they are fish sooner but thankfully they have ego problems.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: New to HUTorneys. A few quick Q\'s.

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yeah our fish usually find out they are fish sooner but thankfully they have ego problems.

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lol, well put.
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Old 07-21-2007, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: New to HUTorneys. A few quick Q\'s.

positive ROI is good. I'd say 10% at 50s+ and 12% and smaller should be your aim. Higher rois are possible as well.
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:40 AM
Rookie16 Rookie16 is offline
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Default Re: New to HUTorneys. A few quick Q\'s.

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positive ROI is good. I'd say 10% at 50s+ and 12% and smaller should be your aim. Higher rois are possible as well.

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On sharkscope they have "average ROI" . Are you refering to the average ROI or Total ROI ?
Im having a hard time trying to figure out what the difference is between the two of them, so if someone could explain i would really appreciate it. Also when people talk about their ROI, are they refering to their Total ROI?
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: New to HUTorneys. A few quick Q\'s.

if you lost 1000 $2 games but won a $5500 your total roi would be positive. you average roi would be very close to -100%
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Old 07-21-2007, 06:26 PM
Perseus Perseus is offline
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Default Re: New to HUTorneys. A few quick Q\'s.

Can we get someone to write a FAQ on this? I'll do it if no one else wants to, but being generally new to HUSnG's compared to others I may need help with the numbers.
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