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Old 08-17-2006, 10:31 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default QQ Deep vs Ph1LLeDINGUE

OK...this hand I don't think is particularly deep in the ways of thought process, bit its still a [censored] spot to be in. Talked it over with Isura for a bit and we kinda agreed on the best line. Just want to check what you guys think too.

For those of you who don't know, Ph1LLeDINGUE multitables 10/20 and does so VERY well. He's down at $200NL to just have some fun and splash around. He's playing at 75/55/4. He's reckless preflop but is playing semi-properly postflop. He's making loads of moves...triple barrelling....thin calls...thin bets and loads of bluffs. He's on quite a few tables with me and he's running over most the tables until some1 picks up a semi-decent hand and then usually stacks phil.

If he's paying attention, he probably views me as weak tight. Up to this point, we've played 3 hands of note. One one I flop top set and we get AI on the flop. He has the NFD and hits. In another, I raise QJ preflop. I flop top 2 and call him down the whole way (he bet pot on all streets. He had bottom pair on flop and picked up 2 pair on turn). The 3rd hand came only a few hands ago. I felt he was giving me a bit too much respect, so I reraised him preflop with J9s. Flop comes JTx and I lead flop and turn. River is an ace and its checked through and his AQ wins.

SOOOOOO......Whats my plan for this hand?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $402.30
UTG+1: $756.40
CO: $648.12
Button: $191
SB: $196
Hero: $526

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $9</font>, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $37</font>, UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($86, 2 players)

Hero?????


EDIT: His range for calling my preflop re-raise is probably pretty damn huge considering he has position and we are deep
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:42 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: QQ Deep vs Ph1LLeDINGUE

Wow, this is a total junk spot. If he views you as weak tight an AKx board hits basically all of your re-raising range. I think you can bet $70 and fold if he raises? I doubt he is putting a move on a weak-tight player on this board.

I am very interested to see what others say.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: QQ Deep vs Ph1LLeDINGUE

Yeah, your hand is pretty much a bluff at this point, I think you just have to cbet and fold to a raise. The pot's big enough already that I want to win it, but I don't want to stack off obviously.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: QQ Deep vs Ph1LLeDINGUE

bet 50-60 and fold to a repop.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: QQ Deep vs Ph1LLeDINGUE

i agree with the last two posters, i would bet $65ish here and fold to a raise.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:27 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: QQ Deep vs Ph1LLeDINGUE

to those saying lead (the last 3 posters) are you c/f the turn?

Just to make it clear, he is VERY VERY easily capable of raising flop with air every now and then and VERY VERY VERY capable of floating
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: QQ Deep vs Ph1LLeDINGUE

haha, i was table selecting tonight and happened to open up this table*, and i am pretty sure i saw this hand (thought you were squeezing, didn't know you had such a big hand).

anyway, i agree with cbloom. your hand is a bluff now, you have no showdown value. i'd throw out a normal continuation bet (i think you can get away with betting as little as 55-60 because he'd probably think you were milking AAA/KKK) and shut down after that.

*note: i did not get on the waiting list. i found better tables. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: QQ Deep vs Ph1LLeDINGUE

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to those saying lead (the last 3 posters) are you c/f the turn?

Just to make it clear, he is VERY VERY easily capable of raising flop with air every now and then and VERY VERY VERY capable of floating

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yes, cf turn. fold flop to a raise. your hand is pretty much air now. if you want to play rock/paper/scissors with him with air, go ahead.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:30 PM
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c/r the flop and be done with the hand if called.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:38 PM
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c/r the flop and be done with the hand if called.

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This was my first thought. If he is capable a floating and or raising the flop here with air, I don't see what we gain by leading here.
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