52s in SB - Ugly

Scarmiglio · #1 10-29-2007, 05:39 PM

I think I botched this hand pretty badly. Maybe my vacation made me a little passive.

Hero has 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the SB at a typical lp table. 5 callers, Hero completes, BB checks.

7 to the flop (7sb) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Checked to MP who Bets, 2 callers, Hero peels, UTG calls.

5 to the turn (6bb) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Checked to MP who bets, 1 caller, Hero chickens out and calls, UTG calls.

4 to river (10bb) blank - Checked around

I think somewhere in my brain I was thinking that bottom 2 pair on a draw heavy board is very likely to get drawn out on, so I didn't want to invest 2 bets on the turn, but that is weak thinking. I think that as played not donking the river is terrible. Thoughts?

Aces McGee · #2 10-29-2007, 05:45 PM

You can't peel this flop properly if you're not going to make more than this when you spike on the turn.

-McGee

Lethe · #3 10-29-2007, 05:46 PM

Well, raise the turn. But you already know that. And yeah as played absolutely bet the river. What was the question again?

Grease · #4 10-29-2007, 06:43 PM

C/R the turn. Fire the river. I don't mind the flop peel, FWIW.

Firing the turn is ok too, if the original bettor can't be expected to bet again.

TheCount212 · #5 10-29-2007, 06:46 PM

Please raise the turn and bet the river. This is the second- or third-best result you could have hoped for PF. But then you knew that..

Scarmiglio · #6 10-29-2007, 07:12 PM

No real question, just a reality check. Thanks.

neurotiq · #7 10-30-2007, 01:31 AM

I'd raise this turn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

James. · #8 10-30-2007, 09:48 AM

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You can't peel this flop properly if you're not going to make more than this when you spike on the turn.

-McGee

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getting 11-1 on his call, i disagree.

but that doesn't mean he made as much as he should have...

Aces McGee · #9 10-30-2007, 10:32 AM

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You can't peel this flop properly if you're not going to make more than this when you spike on the turn.

-McGee

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getting 11-1 on his call, i disagree.

but that doesn't mean he made as much as he should have...

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Nit. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

You may be right. Don't forget, however, to count the times that he hits and is still behind to a flopped set/two pair; the times he hits and his "out" gives someone a better hand; and the times he hits and gets chased down on the river.

-McGee

Dagger78 · #10 10-30-2007, 04:41 PM

Fold the flop, as played CR the turn and bet river.