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Old 08-03-2007, 05:20 PM
Josh. Josh. is offline
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Default not a great spot oop

villain is one of those really tight, really aggressive guys, but not a nit. i haven't seen him much but based on other players who fit his description, he's probably relatively straightforward.

i think i can safely check and fold, but is there value to squeeze out of him? i really hate the river card since i'm not sure if he even calls J8 preflop, so i'm hoping for JT or an underpair

i bet 201 but i think i should've made it closer to 169 if i'm going to bet at all



Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $681.60
BB: $809.20
BTN: $1,074.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt J Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BB calls $18.00

Flop: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $36.00</font>, BB calls $36.00

Turn: ($120) 3 (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $79.00</font>, BB calls $79.00

River: ($278) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:22 PM
Requin Requin is offline
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Default Re: not a great spot oop

Go for it
If he's really aggro and he's good he's going to be balancing a bit by raising you alot PF or on the flop with hands that have you beat.

I like 220, I don't want it too small that he doubts that we could be bluffing.
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:23 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: not a great spot oop

hands like this make me appreciate position so much more
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:31 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: not a great spot oop

yea, looks like a spot for thin value. probably would err on the smaller side though, i dont think this is a good time to try and level him with an overbet.
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: not a great spot oop

i dont see value shrug.
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:50 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: not a great spot oop

Generally there's no value. If there is it comes from your image.
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: not a great spot oop

I think you are probably ahead at this point 50/50. I doubt very much that he has a hand he wants to bluff with, and I doubt he will VB a worse hand (unless you have tendencies you are not telling us about that make him think a VB with J8 would be good if you checked).

I think the EV is similar if you VB or c/f. I'd VB just because I want someone to think twice about calling my second barrels and I generally hate showing the table that I can c/f after firing two streets.

Also betting makes you look a little donkish, which is good because when you hit big and someone has reason to be scared, he can always talk himself into you going crazy with TPGK.
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