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Old 09-15-2007, 07:46 PM
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and I was kind of thinking he might be making a free sd play with say ATs, JTs etc. what now?


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its tough to make a free sd play when you're OOP.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:46 PM
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but i think it is quads or air.

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I think this is flawed thinking and exactly why these kinds of plays own people.

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laffin hard
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:53 PM
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call turn and call river. i might sound absurd, but i think it is quads or air.

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i think it is any 9, occasional tens, quads or air
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:56 PM
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AA, maybe KK?

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Given the recent dynamic between OP and villain, I would be shocked if he showed up with AA/KK here after the preflop action.

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in 16k hands btwn us he hasnt yet failed to 3bet AA KK that ive seen. and in this particular situation this becomes extremely unlikely
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:56 PM
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call turn and call river. i might sound absurd, but i think it is quads or air.

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i think it is any 9, occasional tens, quads or air

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T9 is by far his most likely hand btw
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:27 PM
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call turn and call river. i might sound absurd, but i think it is quads or air.

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i think it is any 9, occasional tens, quads or air

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T9 is by far his most likely hand btw

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quads is more likely than T9 IMO but T9 and quads are definetely part of his range. I'm not sure how much of his range it is though, surely anywhere from 35% to 85%.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:32 PM
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i dont think T9 is his hand because he would not overbet shove the river having the deck crippled. i thought about this hand for a while and i dont think my thinking is flawed.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:33 PM
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and i dont think he shoves with 9x because you can easily have JT here.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:36 PM
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and i dont think he shoves with 9x because you can easily have JT here.

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that seems like flawed thinking, thats like saying his range is purely polarized to a ten, quads, or air.

pretty ridic
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:39 PM
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why is that flawed?
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