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Old 03-22-2007, 04:43 AM
Moorman1 Moorman1 is offline
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Default hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his hand??

villian is 19/11 we have no history
this is the 1st time he has re raised me pre flop and im pretty sure he has a big pair... how do i go about playing this hand??

Full Tilt Poker Game #2042886956: Table Ariba (6 max) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:20:07 ET - 2007/03/22
Seat 1: cheettt ($641.75)
Seat 2: dorinvandy ($591)
Seat 3: Wyteazn ($2,263.05)
Seat 4: MoormanI ($997.65)
Seat 5: CrazyIvan24 ($1,297.60)
Seat 6: ricco gross ($705.75)
cheettt posts the small blind of $3
dorinvandy posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MoormanI [8d 8h]
Wyteazn folds
MoormanI raises to $21
CrazyIvan24 raises to $72
ricco gross folds
cheettt folds
dorinvandy folds
MoormanI calls $51
*** FLOP *** [6d 7s 9d]
MoormanI checks
CrazyIvan24 bets $130
MoormanI raises to $468
CrazyIvan24 has 15 seconds left to act
CrazyIvan24 calls $338
*** TURN *** [6d 7s 9d] [7c]
MoormanI bets $457.65, and is all in
CrazyIvan24 calls $457.65
MoormanI shows [8d 8h]
CrazyIvan24 shows [Kh Kd]
*** RIVER *** [6d 7s 9d 7c] [2h]
MoormanI shows two pair, Eights and Sevens
CrazyIvan24 shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
CrazyIvan24 wins the pot ($2,001.30) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
MoormanI is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2,004.30 | Rake $3
Board: [6d 7s 9d 7c 2h]
Seat 1: cheettt (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: dorinvandy (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Wyteazn didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: MoormanI showed [8d 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 5: CrazyIvan24 showed [Kh Kd] and won ($2,001.30) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 6: ricco gross (button) didn't bet (folded)
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:16 AM
feesjah feesjah is offline
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his hand??

i think check call on the flop and open push any turn
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:17 AM
Tempest122 Tempest122 is offline
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his hand??

Trying to bluff people off big pairs in reraised pots doesnt work very well.
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:32 AM
Terrabon98 Terrabon98 is offline
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his han

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Trying to bluff people off big pairs in reraised pots doesnt work very well.

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Yup
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:11 PM
CrazyIvan24 CrazyIvan24 is offline
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his han

I'm not folding the best hand here!
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:40 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his hand??

c/c flop and try to hit ur hand. Never expect anyone to fold an overpair, EVER, even on a ridic drawy board. Drawy board gives them just as little of a reason to fold it because they'll assume u have a draw every single time and just ship it in. There's NO fold equity to be created here, and I don't like your turn shove at all, since he's calling 100% of the time. Shut down after he calls flop IMO. You have 10 outsx2=~22% equity on the turn, but you're sticking all ur $ in. If you guys were like 250BB deep, you might be able to bet/3bet all in on the flop and get some good FE from a solid player because only a nutjob would rele go broke with KK deep on that flop, but with 100BB, the $$ is goin in regardless if someone has an overpair. Don't try to bluff them off the best hand in this spot, because trust me, it won't work. And besides, he's getting 2:1 to call ur shove on the turn, jus somethin to think about why you would just stick the rest of ur stack in on the turn as a ~3.5:1 dog with one pull of the deck, when it's prob best to just c/f.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his han

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Trying to bluff people off big pairs in reraised pots doesnt work very well.

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Old 09-16-2007, 03:53 PM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his han

Maybe bet flop smallish, 3bet all in if he raises. If he calls flop you peeled your 10 outer cheap.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:20 PM
yoshi86 yoshi86 is offline
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his han

not this way. u're giving him better than 3-1 to call then turn.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:24 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: hows the best way i create folding equity here when i know his han

you played the hand about the worst way possible.
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