Easy Check/Fold with Two Pair in a RR pot

[Hindsight2020]

right?

No reads.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($591)
SB ($1127.80)
Hero ($659.15)
UTG ($414.08)
MP ($201.31)
CO ($600)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, Button calls $45.

Flop: ($135) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $111</font>, Button calls $111.

Turn: ($357) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $300</font>, <font color="#666666">Hero folds.</font>

is your response different if he shoves?

i know some of you don't like pf, but i don't really want to talk about it, here

[Better Than U]

I like pf. I think you played fine postflop. Surely sometimes you'll check AK/AQ/QQ+ here? So he has to be scared of what you have. I think he has JT alot hoping that you have enough to call.

Why did you edit turn action???

[Hindsight2020]

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Why did you edit turn action???

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I thought the hand was more interesting this way.

In the original action, he shoved, maybe I should just ask the question in the OP

[Tempest122]

Without a read I like this as your hands only beating a bluff at that point. Preflop is fine too I just make it a bit more.

[RiverHebrew2]

Turn is definitely fold. You beat NOTHING on the turn Except AJ or AT, which villain would have to be idiot to play it like that preflop and call flop.

[Morrek]

this sucks but I guess its fine.

[Hindsight2020]

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Without a read I like this as your hands only beating a bluff at that point

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even against a super crazy player, i think it's pretty close

the turn card just clobbers any range that was calling for value on the flop. i only beat a float, or some hand that was calling for value on the flop that decided it needed to bluff (JJ/KJ or something?)

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You beat NOTHING on the turn Except AJ or AT, which villain would have to be idiot to play it like that preflop and call flop.

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yeah, and even the turn bet is pretty questionable, from these hands. they're looking for me to call with... ?

ofc, he could just be like 'omg top pair! gottabet!'

[RollinHand]

There was a hand posted that looked just like this one a few days ago.
Hero bet called turn and was shown AK I belive.
I belive most agreed that, check fold was the line to take.

[Hindsight2020]

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There was a hand posted that looked just like this one a few days ago.
Hero bet called turn and was shown AK I belive.
I belive most agreed that, check fold was the line to take.

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yah, i borrowed this hand from that thread because somebody else said that the line you just mentioned was "fine" while I thought it was horrible

i was hoping that there would be more discussion on the hand if I gave it its own thread

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

i think this is player dependant, against most people however this is a trivial fold. Against some known floaters though your in a tough spot.