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#12
07-10-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: Why can no one write a truly advanced poker book ?
phydaux - How Good is your Limit Holdem?
Really? I like this book as much as the next guy but it is hardly advanced. I agree with the OP but I think it's kind of hard to explain to others. Better chess books are written with the understanding that the reader is already a pretty advanced player. In poker books it's like they feel the need to yet again explain some really basic concepts for the reader and take more baby-steps to be careful not to lose anyone along the way. Perhaps to some degree Stox's book takes a more advanced approach imo. But still, Stox will do something in his hand-examples with something like (I'm just making something up here, but you get the idea) "defending in the BB with KQ vs. a steal-raise (meaning a raise from the CO, button or SB) is an autmoatic play." First, anyone should know what a steal-raise means. If not, just throw it in the glossary or something. Second, anyone should know that a blind-defense with KQ is an automatic play. I love Stox's book and think that many of the concepts are awesome. I'm not sure that skipping some of the beginner-ish stuff is the right thing to do or not. But there is no doubt that some of it does indeed contain beginnerish stuff. In a more advanced chess book, when a move is pretty much automatic it just shows the move. It doesn't feel the need to go into such detail as, "when the opponent puts you in check then you need to either move your king, block the check with one of your pieces, or capture the piece that is putting you in check. In this case, blocking the check with your knight is the obvious play." It will simply show the move as Nf7 or something and if you can't figure out that this was a pretty obvious move then that's your problem. 
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#13
07-10-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: Why can no one write a truly advanced poker book ?
well i just really think the reason about:
"Better chess books are written with the understanding that the reader is already a pretty advanced player. In poker books it's like they feel the need to yet again explain some really basic concepts for the reader and take more baby-steps to be careful not to lose anyone along the way." i just simply think theres more "serious" chess players then they are poker player. what i mean is,there is so much activities on the world scene with intermediate and up players in chess vs poker(and much more stuff to learn then in poker),that a market much larger in chess exist then in poker... but anyway,i seriously think the need of the OP for such book is needed and probably in 2007,with the ever increasing # of poker players,such book would find a lot of reader(and buyer  ).cause no matter what,with internet,player gets better much faster and the urge of "knowlegde" should go up likewise! im just afraid like a previuos poster said,its all about someone (world class),takes the time and energy to write with all the work it needs to be created,wich i suspect is alot and certainly not that.....profitable ...
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#15
07-10-2007, 10:12 PM
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Re: Why can no one write a truly advanced poker book ?
OP,
Have you checked out Mathematics of Poker?
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#17
07-11-2007, 04:30 AM
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Re: Why can no one write a truly advanced poker book ?
how is Mathematics of Poker??? Just thought about buying it today
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#18
07-11-2007, 05:12 AM
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Re: Why can no one write a truly advanced poker book ?
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#19
07-11-2007, 05:33 AM
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Re: Why can no one write a truly advanced poker book ?
Assume you are a professional poker player and you make your living from a small set of secrets. Why share them with the public if that book doesn't make you enough money to live from it for the rest of your life?
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#20
07-11-2007, 07:18 AM
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Re: Why can no one write a truly advanced poker book ?
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sorry jackcase,ive attained a pretty good level(only master but still,far enough that i know what im talking about) in chess and let me tell u this... there s a lot more similarities between chess and poker then u think!! ure quote:"In poker, the answer as to what to do next is always "it depends". That is never the answer in chess. " totally false... [/ QUOTE ] How come the poker programs seem to struggle against (multiple) intermediate players yet can play very tough chess?
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