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Old 08-18-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

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As aplunk says, there's probably not much that's paying us off but I think the way ahead is to consider how we play our whole reraising range here, with these stacks. Or at least, how we'd be expected to play it.

So, how do you play AA? How do most people play KK/AK? How do we play AQ, TT-QQ or air?

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c-bet around halfpot seems standard. He if he calls that much of his stack pf he will probably stack of with many pairs on flops like this. otherwise if we had a smaller stack the slight overbet push is also funny.
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

i think SAYGN has a creative way of playing the hand. this would be a good spot for a bet check bet sequence.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

yeah , but he is probably never calling flop
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

A minbet would telegraph exactly what you have. Never minbet.

I like the bet of 2000 on the flop. Not much more you can do here.
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

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As aplunk says, there's probably not much that's paying us off but I think the way ahead is to consider how we play our whole reraising range here, with these stacks. Or at least, how we'd be expected to play it.

So, how do you play AA? How do most people play KK/AK? How do we play AQ, TT-QQ or air?

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This is why I would check. Because I am always checking AA on this flop.
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

i almost never check after a 3bet (esp not h-up), leak?
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:53 PM
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i almost never check after a 3bet (esp not h-up), leak?

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If you have AA or QQ on this flop, what do you gain by betting? What hands call you? Only opponents who like to play lost poker with their small pairs will call you on this flop. Otherwise, the villain has a K and you are in big trouble. If there is no reason to bet those flops with those hands, there is no reason to bet with AK here either.
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:58 PM
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i almost never check after a 3bet (esp not h-up), leak?

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If you have AA or QQ on this flop, what do you gain by betting? What hands call you? Only opponents who like to play lost poker with their small pairs will call you on this flop. Otherwise, the villain has a K and you are in big trouble. If there is no reason to bet those flops with those hands, there is no reason to bet with AK here either.

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Same hands that we are hoping call this hand 99-JJ
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Old 08-18-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

yeah i get your point but as soon as we start to 3bet wider we cant really play that game without creating obv betting patterns?
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Old 08-18-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

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As aplunk says, there's probably not much that's paying us off but I think the way ahead is to consider how we play our whole reraising range here, with these stacks. Or at least, how we'd be expected to play it.

So, how do you play AA? How do most people play KK/AK? How do we play AQ, TT-QQ or air?

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This is why I would check. Because I am always checking AA on this flop.

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OK, so on a board that pairs broadway, given the stacks, you check any legitimate pf reraising hand?

Is this what you're expected to do?

I would contend that we're epxected to check AA and a K and that this part of our range is never folding. What else do we reraise OOP and how do we play that on the flop. TT-QQ, AQs and air, for example?
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