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Old 08-17-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

$10r. Villain has just arrived so no reads or image.

What's your line?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
(Ante: t25)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t13100
UTG+1: t49516
MP1: t7076
MP2: t22050
MP3: t22785
CO: t10385
Button: t2985
SB: t10500
Hero: t17790

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t675)</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t900</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t2700</font>, UTG folds, CO calls t1800 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t4275)</font>.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t6075, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero?
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

Villain has 8K left and the pot is 6K, so if I bet, I would bet ~2K or less. That might give him the idea that he has FE and he might shove.

Anyhow, I'd probably check here and lead the turn for 2K (or maybe 1.9K).
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

shame you re-reaised pre-flop - it's gonna be hard to look weak at this point.

i think u gotta hope he's got precisely KQ.

A check is gonna look like a monster, so mebbe with no knowledge of villain it may be worth open pushing and hope 99 calls
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

i don't like checking the flop and leading the turn - it looks way too much like exactly what it is

i think if you check the flop you should be checking the turn too - kinda like firing too barrels
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

I bet the flop trying to look weak...2k seems like it's too much of an invite for villain to stay in the hand...I don't know what an average player is like these 10r so it's difficult for me to speculate

checking might work too and meekly betting turn...might be just as inviting for a shove
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:37 AM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

As aplunk says, there's probably not much that's paying us off but I think the way ahead is to consider how we play our whole reraising range here, with these stacks. Or at least, how we'd be expected to play it.

So, how do you play AA? How do most people play KK/AK? How do we play AQ, TT-QQ or air?
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

I would make a continuation sized looking bet and hope something good happens (KJ or KQ). Some hands you just aren't gonna make money on.
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

Id make a c-bet about 2000 and hope for a raise!!! or at least a call [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

Value bet 1/3 - 2/3 pot, depending on what you think he will call.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: Flop trips after reraising pf with AK.

How about something that confuses the hell out of him? MIN BET! He has position on you, so if you min bet and he calls (for a min bet he probably will), you can check the turn and I think this does the best to convey weakness and he is most likely to bet with whatever cards he has. It throws an element of confusion in there so it doesn't scream "I HAVE A KING!" quite the same way that checking does. I never really min bet but this seems like a moment where it builds the pot slightly and messes with the opponent's head where checking does you no real good and likely gives your hand away, and a c-bet is likely to fold just about everything in a smart player's arsenal. Maybe it's stupid, but if you pull it off it probably will do wonders for your image in later hands trying to take decent sized pots for cheap.
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