NLTRN $10

[theseus51]

Seat 1: Villan (1615 in chips)
Seat 2: theseus51 (1385 in chips)
theseus51: posts small blind 15
Villan: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to theseus51 [3h 5h]
theseus51: raises 60 to 90
Villan: raises 90 to 180
theseus51: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [5s Qc 5d]
Villan: bets 120
theseus51: raises 180 to 300
Villan: calls 180
*** TURN *** [5s Qc 5d] [2s]

Ok, I had a disagreement with my friend about this hand. Villan was a pretty decent player, but a little on the tight side, and he wouldn't re-raise without a strong hand. First of all, do you think after getting re-raised 90 more, in a pot of 270, I should've called pre-flop with my my 5-high?

Also, raise on the flop or not? I figure if he had like Aces, Kings, or a Queen, I might as well try get more money in before the board gets scary (another Queen if he has an overpair, or an overcard if he has a Queen). If he has Jacks or worse, I'm not really getting paid off anyway. Results in white for those who really wanna know.

Results in white:
<font color="white">
Villan: checks
theseus51: bets 905 and is all-in
Villan: calls 905
*** RIVER *** [5s Qc 5d 2s] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Villan: shows [Ks As] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
theseus51: shows [3h 5h] (a full house, Fives full of Queens)
theseus51 collected 2770 from pot </font>

[Lommeknekten]

I would shove here against a donk. Poker is game between humans, and a donk could do this play with any hands. Its not many hands that leaves you with less than 50 50. I think it is a fair chance that you are a big dog. But against a strong opponent I dont know what do do here.

[Lommeknekten]

ops, wrong tread.

[markpal]

On the non Q turn, I will try to get all my money in the pot. Lots more likely based on his preflop raise that he has a queen or a big pair. If you push, it may make him think you are trying to steal also. Plus, at $10, people never ever want to fold KK or AA no matter how obvious it is they are beat. If he happens to have QQ, well, pay him off.

[AceofSpades]

I kinda like a bet flop/shove turn line on this. it could be taken as queen/bluff line

[MychCumstien]

To answer your first question, "no" I don't call his reraise PF with 35 suited.

I also wouldn't bump the flop at this point. He could easily be c-betting hands like A high here, which should quickly fold to your raise. Q55 isn't likely to hit many hands. I think a smooth call on the flop is the right play here. If he's got something, he'll bet the turn; and even if he doesn't, he may fire another barrell. I don't want to risk scaring him off the hand on the flop.

On the turn, if he checks, I bet. If he bets, I raise here, etc. i.e get the money in then.

As played, it worked out for you on the flop. Since he acts first, it would have been nice for you to show us the villain's action on the turn. If he bets, I'd put in a stiff raise here, possibly shove. If he checks, I'm betting 1/2 to 2/3 the pot here.

[MychCumstien]

ok, reading your results now:

Villan: checks
theseus51: bets 905 and is all-in
Villan: calls 905
*** RIVER *** [5s Qc 5d 2s] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Villan: shows [Ks As] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
theseus51: shows [3h 5h] (a full house, Fives full of Queens)
theseus51 collected 2770 from pot

Wow, I hate this play by him. That is a horrible call IMO, and won't happen very often. I think too often here when he checks and you shove, he's going to fold. Nice result though for you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Villain's a donk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Capitan23]

Calling re-raise with 35s will almost always lose you money. I wouldn't do it.

Apart from that, I might make my raises more aggressive, it helps reduce bad beats in general. Post flop play isn't bad though, he got lucky.

[dc_publius]

I don't call a reraise PF.

Against aggressive opponents, I like the flop raise. However, I don't push the turn. I don't see much value in it. Instead, I prefer to check behind on the turn, and value bet on the river. This way, my flop raise looks more like a feeler raise and by the river the guy can actually make something to call me with. Then again, sometimes you do get lucky as you did in this hand... but not often enough to make it an optimal play IMO.

[Mr.JR]

I don't hate the call of the re-raise pre-flop for a few reasons:

1. It's a min. raise.
2. You have the button.
3. It's going to be easy to play after the flop. Either you hit it hard (like you did) or or miss. Also have to be willing to lay down if you pair your 3 or 5 depending on the texture of the flop.

Reasons for folding:

You have 5-high.