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Old 01-28-2007, 08:12 AM
sergsz sergsz is offline
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Default TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

Villain is 26/25/6.3

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $169.20
UTG+1: $329.75
CO: $187
Button: $32
SB: $254.75
hero: $198.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $12</font>, hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $29</font>, hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($99, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $72</font>, hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $72 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $99

1) Is this a raise-or-fold situation preflop, or is a call fine here once a while against this type of villain? If it's raise/fold, which frequencies do you recommend?

2) Would it be spew to throw in a raise at some point postflop to find out where we are at? How bout leading flop or turn?

3) The river is a clear fold, right? Or did I play this so weak that a call is + EV?
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

Sorry, jsut want to bump it once because I'm very curious about this hand and want to see if the evening shift has any feedback.
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

I would call this river, everyone loves to 3 barrel.
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:56 PM
KEW KEW is offline
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

Against this villain I 3 bet PF nearly 100% of the time..

As played I think you have to call that river..Villain is very aggro and your hand was played like a draw or a weak hand that villain think he can blow you off of..
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:57 PM
natzucowww natzucowww is offline
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

his stats are more lagtaggish but w/ever.

1. i think callings fine though rring's probably better since you're ahead of his range though not by much.

2. if you're ahead let him keep betting, if you're behind you save money by not raising.

3. i don't think it's a clear fold with his stats but it's close to one. have you seen him fire three shells before? does he always c-bet, does he bet fast like he's on autopilot? i probably fold but im looking for a reason to call him.
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

you have to call this river
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

His c-bet rate is 50%. Haven't been paying real close attention, so can't recall a spot where he 3-barreled before.
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:31 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

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you have to FOLD this river

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He's vb AT here REALLY REALLY rarely, and people just don't 3-barrel all that much, so plz lets have less of the "ZOMG, HE RAISES PREFLOP 25% OF THE TIME, HE'S OBV BLUFFING THIS RIVER"
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:32 PM
AlienBoy AlienBoy is offline
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

As played, I'm not folding this ever against someone that aggro.


But I'm also not for playing it so passively. On that flop you're good more than 75% of the time I think - check/RAISE that flop to 36.

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Old 01-28-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG

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you have to FOLD this river

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He's vb AT here REALLY REALLY rarely, and people just don't 3-barrel all that much, so plz lets have less of the "ZOMG, HE RAISES PREFLOP 25% OF THE TIME, HE'S OBV BLUFFING THIS RIVER"

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you are right, i based my decision entirely off his preflop raise percentage. betsizing seems like a bluff to me, i made my decision. If OP calls the turn the river is a call, if you are folding the hand the turn is the place IMO.
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