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Old 10-31-2007, 10:50 AM
Ncoe Ncoe is offline
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Default QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

No reads except for utg who seems pretty good, but playing at like 25/19 over ~150 hands.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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UTG: $179.35
BTN: $95.50
SB: $116.90
Hero (BB): $110.60

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $38</font>, SB folds, Hero??
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:33 AM
Bramsterdam Bramsterdam is offline
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

Have you squeezed before? Looks like he's fos
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

Shove of course. Sure, sometimes you are up against AA/KK, but often you're up against a lower pocket pair or AK/AQ.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

Is it best to bet 3bet a little more, like 18 or 20 even? Or is that giving away too much info...does the lower bet just make it look more like a squeeze play?
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

There aren't to many players who are going to smooth call an UTG raise with players left to act with a hand that is better than queens. If he holds kings or aces, hes reraising off the bat.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

I go broke here
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:42 AM
JediGrindTricks JediGrindTricks is offline
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

villain knows you'll probably squeeze so he flats with KK/AA. You deliver with a nasty 3bet. He rejoices. and min-4bets you. You shove. He calls. He actually has 88...
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

Although I have seen AA from villains in this spot, it's usually lower pp or some stupid sc. I would shove.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:00 PM
Ncoe Ncoe is offline
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

My decision was to call and commit to a flop w/o overs.
But I realised later that it's probably too much money to put in (calling his rasie) W/o fully commiting no matter the board.

However, can't calling and then c/c be an idea?
If he's full of [censored], it's prolly the best way to get his money and if he's not then I'm going broke anyway.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:11 PM
BombayBadboy BombayBadboy is offline
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Default Re: QQ gets four-bet (multiple actors)

He has half of his stack in..just go allin, he will call because of 'odds'.
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