Xpost: 50K VIP tourney KK spot.

RapidEvolution · #1 11-10-2007, 05:36 PM

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Out of the 50K With my stack size, I'm not sure I could've gotten away here. Thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG (t7480)
UTG+1 (t3330)
Hero (t5255)
MP2 (t3620)
MP3 (t9627)
CO (t5195)
Button (t4425)
SB (t5313)
BB (t4675)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t600, MP2 calls t600, 3 folds, SB calls t500, 1 fold.

Flop: (t1900) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1200, MP2 raises to t2995, SB raises to t4688, Hero calls t3430 (All-In).

Turn: (t14213) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t14213) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t14213

Results in white below: 
SB has Jd Jh (full house, jacks full of fives).
Hero has Kh Kd (two pair, kings and fives).
MP2 has As Qs (one pair, fives).
Outcome: SB wins t14213. 

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Given what my stack's gonna look like, is this a shove or fold?
Payout is to top 200, 84 spots till payout.

BrandiFan · #2 11-10-2007, 05:55 PM

I think you're committed, SB could just as easily have AJ. Call.
Edit: Do NOT assume that people have a clue how to play because they're in this tournament.

RapidEvolution · #3 11-10-2007, 05:58 PM

Was my first time in the 50k so I felt a bit intimidated, but felt that I wasn't deep enough to fold. Is this a fold at any depth? Also, thanks for the comment about people's play at this tourney. I'll feel better if I win my way into another one.

BrandiFan · #4 11-10-2007, 06:03 PM

I could probably fold here ~50BBs deep with a decent read that the 2 villians are fairly tight

RapidEvolution · #5 11-10-2007, 06:11 PM

Many thanks, Brand. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Still doin the 20k!

Tsunami11 · #6 11-10-2007, 07:30 PM

The 2.5 raise on the flop is real suspect in a multi-way pot. If you fold you about 16 BBs left, which is plenty in a tourney and it's also plenty becuase you haven't reached the ante period. But you're far from committed.
Plus, the 2.5 is rarely a bluff on the flop in a multiway pot. The worst this guy could have is a flush+straight draw, in which case you can just call imo

deemark · #7 11-11-2007, 02:32 AM

I should fold directly after a raise and reraise surely you are beaten by a set. Easy fold. Sometimesb ypu must laydown your KK and AA.