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Old 08-30-2006, 04:37 PM
True North True North is offline
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Default 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

Stars Sunday Million satellite, 11 left, on the bubble. Next one out gets the $70 booby prize; everyone else wins a seat.

Villain is low stack, I'm second low stack. Table has been very tight for the last 40 minutes or so.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t30333)
Button (t23145)
Hero (t17740)
BB (t29760)
UTG (t21390)
MP (t13268)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t6000</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>

Can anyone justify a fold here?
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

I'm assuming everybody at the other table is bigger than both of you?
Also remember if you fold and BB folds, you are now the shortest stack, I think I take my chances here and pooooosh.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

One of those quirks -- five of the six biggest stacks were at the other table. None of them were in any danger of busting.
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

Yeah a 'what do I do PF w/ KK hand', come on, read the FAQ, don't post these
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

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Yeah a 'what do I do PF w/ KK hand', come on, read the FAQ, don't post these

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This is a satellite spot, did you actually read the post?
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

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Yeah a 'what do I do PF w/ KK hand', come on, read the FAQ, don't post these

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This is a satellite spot, did you actually read the post?

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So, are you saying you wouldn't insta-call here? We are WAY ahead of his range, and can't fold into a seat.
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

You push- he folds...

11 left, so you have 5 and 6 people on each table, blinds come around real fast, I don't see you gettting a better opportunity. Push and eliminate.

I hope you're not posting this because he called and hit his 2 or 3 outer???
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

The question I was asking is, given the table dynamics, is it a better play to fold this and try to chip up in other spots?
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Old 08-30-2006, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

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Yeah a 'what do I do PF w/ KK hand', come on, read the FAQ, don't post these

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This is a satellite spot, did you actually read the post?

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So, are you saying you wouldn't insta-call here? We are WAY ahead of his range, and can't fold into a seat.

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I don't know, because I'm not a satellite expert, but I do know this call is neither instant nor obvious.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 11R satellite: One of \"those\" hands?

Being a sat, this is probably a fold, especially if the table has been really tight and you've been able to steal without much resistance to stay alive. Yeah, you might be 2nd shortest stack, but is there anyone shorter at the other table? And you're not much smaller than Button or UTG either.

If you've been able to steal easily, this might very well be a fold, especially if there's some small stacks on the other table.

Let's assume he's only minraising here with a narrow range of strong hands, like QQ+, AK. You're like, 60% against the range. And there's a real chance Villain has AA here if he's been playing tight. I think your chances of folding here and surviving the bubble by stealing in other hands or just waiting for someone else to make a dumb mistake is better than 60%.
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