N 82's IP finding for AP situation

[Belok]

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How did 'we' get access to the players IP addresses?

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b4 scandal was apparent Crazy Marco requested a HH from AP on the tourney in which he came in 2nd

he received a crazy long xls file that seemed to be gibberish to him.

after scandal blew open and ap denied wrongdoing he sent HH to people on p5 and here to look at- not only did HH have everyone hole cards shown [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] but it also had ip addys of people who observed tables, one observer was at cheaters table the whole time (except 1st two hands in which cheater folded) and he is linked to having the 363rd account which is likely an alpha account at AP

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Wow I didnt know this part.

APs decision to send their master HH information to a player who requested it is maybe the dumbest move ever.

[BrianBigNFun]

Good place to start

[heater]

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Good place to start

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Here's a copy of Josem's post. Just to keep things simple:

Cliff's Notes: The Absolute Poker cheaters are part of an inside job - either a rogue employee (bad apple) or rogue company (bad orchard).


Long Version:
1) During a tournament played by cheater 'Potripper,' the person who ended up coming second ("Marco") thought he was cheated. He emailed Absolute, and they sent him a hand history file - an XLS file.

2) Marco opened up this file, it seemed all gibberish to him, and he didn't think anything of it.

3) First Absolute Poker scandal blow up - PT screenshots, etc. Graphical representation here: http://www.absolutepokercheats.com/vpipvbb.jpg

4) Fortnight passes

5) In passing discussion, Marco mentions he has this file. He shares it with a few people, including N 80 50 24(pokerdb.com maintainer, maker of The Poker Film, part owner of Bluff Media) who analyses what is in this file

6) Nat (N 80 50 24) & 2p2 poster Snagglepuss discover that this file is a complete hand history for the tournament - showing every table, and all hole cards of every player.

Hand histories here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=0&fpart=1
View Video here (free registration required)


7) Big excitement over #6

8) In further analysis, Nat + Snagglepuss discovers that this file contains IP addresses and user details (including email addresses) of people observing the table

9) In #8, they discover user #363 is observing PotRipper's table the whole time

10) At the start of the tournament, for the two hands that user #363 is not observing the table, Potripper folds preflop. He doesn't fold another hand pre-flop for 20minutes, when he open-folds with KK held by a player behind him.

11) The IP address recorded for user #363 tracks out to be a user who uses email on an Absolute Poker server hosted by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission (More info here)

[CCx]

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(2:14:33 AM) GambleAB: on a scale of 1 to 10
(2:14:43 AM) GambleAB: 1 being you telling on your sister for eating the last cookie
(2:14:52 AM) GambleAB: and 10 being that senator who outed the spy
(2:15:00 AM) GambleAB: how big of a blunder was sending that hh to marco?
(2:15:09 AM) GIFAFI: 9.845

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awesome

[Babalatexi]

Whoah, this is just so huge o.O. Just one question.

"b4 scandal was apparent Crazy Marco requested a HH from AP on the tourney in which he came in 2nd

he received a crazy long xls file that seemed to be gibberish to him."

Is there ANY possibility that "Crazy Marco" faked this file he received? I mean, if not, then this is just...[censored] Absolutements.

[DING-DONG YO]

not surprised at all.

good work, N82.

[MrTimCaum]

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Is there ANY possibility that "Crazy Marco" faked this file he received? I mean, if not, then this is just...[censored] Absolutements.

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jesus christ no. if you'd actually READ FOR YOURSELF, you could have this information. instead, you choose to make random speculations about someone who is a well known and highly respected regular on the tournament circuit.

[heater]

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Whoah, this is just so huge o.O. Just one question.

"b4 scandal was apparent Crazy Marco requested a HH from AP on the tourney in which he came in 2nd

he received a crazy long xls file that seemed to be gibberish to him."

Is there ANY possibility that "Crazy Marco" faked this file he received? I mean, if not, then this is just...[censored] Absolutements.

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I believe this file was 60,000+ lines in Excel format. Of course it's possible that Marco took the time to punch in hole cards for every player in every hand at every table of this tournament along with emails, ip's, etc. for all of the observers at those tables. I don't think he could have possibly finished doing all of that by now, though.

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[The 13th 4postle]

WOW! This story just went to another level.

[DING-DONG YO]

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Whoah, this is just so huge o.O. Just one question.

"b4 scandal was apparent Crazy Marco requested a HH from AP on the tourney in which he came in 2nd

he received a crazy long xls file that seemed to be gibberish to him."

Is there ANY possibility that "Crazy Marco" faked this file he received? I mean, if not, then this is just...[censored] Absolutements.

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I believe this file was 60,000+ lines in Excel format. Of course it's possible that Marco took the time to punch in hole cards for every player in every hand at every table of this tournament along with emails, ip's, etc. for all of the observers at those tables. I don't think he could have possibly finished doing all of that by now, though.

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or he wrote a macro to reformat the file for him. Have you ever actually used Excel?