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OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
reads- villain was 14/12/2 over around 120 and seemed decent. we dont have any history to speak of and im playing pretty nitty, so if hes paying attention this is what he should think of me.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter CO: $16.80 BTN: $41.10 Hero (SB): $55.50 BB: $25.70 UTG: $67.55 Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB) <font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, Hero calls $0.90 Flop: ($2.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $1.70</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $7.35</font>, Hero pukes on his shoes and does what... i know i could have 3 bet, but i thought it was meh. comments on all streets appreciated, especially a plan for the rest of the hand if we plan on continuing... |
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
given ur image and villians image i love a raise to like 30 total or so. we will have an ass load of FE and even when he does call or shove or w/e we still will have reasonably good equity in the hand
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
I disagree with Kaz, and I think you should fold. Villain is at 14/12/2, has raised preflop, and then raised your ill-advised donk-bet by more than pot. At the micros, you are nearly never ahead here.
note: with villain's PT stats, assuming he adjusts his PF range for position, from UTG you can probably narrow his range to AQs+, AK, or 99+, against which you have 53% equity. However, its unlikely villain makes this play with overcards and your equity against 99+ is only 38%. |
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
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I disagree with Kaz, and I think you should fold. Villain is at 14/12/2, has raised preflop, and then raised your ill-advised donk-bet by more than pot. At the micros, you are nearly never ahead here. note: with villain's PT stats, assuming he adjusts his PF range for position, from UTG you can probably narrow his range to AQs+, AK, or 99+, against which you have 53% equity. However, its unlikely villain makes this play with overcards and your equity against 99+ is only 38%. [/ QUOTE ]yes obv we r well behind his range but we should have a [censored] ton of FE here. i dont see a nit calling a big 3 bet on this flop against another known nit with 99-QQ here very often thus makin the play good imo. and when he does call we still win the hand 40% of the time so we r in good shape |
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
Why only 99+? My raising stats are worse then villans 12 and I raise every pocket pair UTG, we could be waaay behind vs a set here. I would c/c on the flop and see what the turn brings, but then again, I'm nitty and to weak.
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
Kaz's line is the same as mine
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
Check/raise the flop please.
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
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yes obv we r well behind his range but we should have a [censored] ton of FE here. i dont see a nit calling a big 3 bet on this flop against another known nit with 99-QQ [/ QUOTE ] I disagree with this, I can't see why he would have raised here if he doesnt want to call a shove as this is not a very good board to be bluffing on. If he puts you on an overpair he knows you will call because of the SD on the flop, and thus we should also know that if he has QQ he will be putting us on the SD if we shove. Obv he wont put us directly on the SD but he will be figuring it into our range. I think our FE is pretty low here. |
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
Check/call the flop. Bet/3-betting sucks. A nittish player just made a more than 4x raise deep, this should clearly make us discount at least JJ-88. I don't think we should try to get him fold AA-QQ and a set is obviously in his range as well.
I don't get the idea of betting the flop at all. Just check/call and pick up the c-bet. We have a nice draw and we're ahead often, by betting we're getting him to fold tons of worse hands and when we're behind we're often bloating the pot with a decent draw deep. We're obv never getting him to fold a better hand by betting, unless we're also 3-betting which would be bad because his raising range is strong and probably doesn't include JJ-88/7x type of hands. |
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Re: OESD oop in a bloated pot, say what...
Is check call the flop a bad move here?
It shows some strenghts and may slow down overcards... I dunno check calling the flop and reraising the turn looks really strong if u think villian will fold overcards... |
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