Cheating in sports

[Shadowrun]

If your not cheating your not trying!

[TyFuji]

Bonds is obviously on something, the question is wether it was banned when he took it and exactly what he did/is doing.

Sports should reward the combination of natural skill and hard work that is the formula for success in any field. At the same time, we walk a thin like by "leveling the playing field" through Thommy John, etc while simultanously condeming similar advantages gained through steroids. This is the same question as affirmative action, really.

[Shadowrun]

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Really the only good case against Bonds would be that he was the only one using steroids, or he was the only one using the very best of the stuff.

These are both not true, and thus we can still conclude that Bonds is one of the greatest players ever.

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are yous seriously doubting that barry bonds didnt use steroids? maybe pete rose didnt bet on baseball? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[tdarko]

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Believe it or not people in their 20's look a whole lot different than when they are in their 40's.

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This is so true.

Athletes in their 20's are always going to be thinner, they may be well built, ripped and muscular but they don't carry the mass like they do when they age.

[tdarko]

Shadowrun,

He is saying that everyone was available to the best stuff (not the only one using the best stuff) and he isn't the only one using it. He is saying that if you were able to somehow figure it out that he was the only one to ever do it then that is the only way he wouldn't be considered one of the greatest players ever.

[stormstarter28]

It's called ethics, people. If you can't see the ethical difference between working hard and using drugs to increase performance, I feel sorry for you.

[gumpzilla]

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It's called ethics, people. If you can't see the ethical difference between working hard and using drugs to increase performance, I feel sorry for you.

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This isn't the difference. The difference is between working hard with drugs, and working hard without drugs, at least as I understand it.

[THAY3R]

Every single professional athlete uses drugs to increase their performance.

[Shadowrun]

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Every single professional athlete uses drugs to increase their performance.

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there is a difference between HGH, anabolic steroids, and Flinstone Vitamins

[THAY3R]

Just like there's a difference between jogging every day and surgically taking out tendons in your knee and placing them in your elbow. Nobody seems to have a problem with that though.