3bet Pot, Villain Owns Me

jk3a · #1 10-12-2007, 01:16 AM

Villain is 20/12/3 thru 400ish. He has literally been winning almost every pot we've played together for the past hour. He's snapped off 3 of my cbets and one double barrel and generally owns me of late. I know that calling is preferred by some players pf and that line is perfectly fine, but I didn't call so let's please not discuss pf.

With the stacks being a bit deeper, I thought the small cbet on the flop gives me much more room to play later if I choose to. Obv we can just c/f, but I'm curious if we like another barrel at all.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $374.25
SB: $418.75
Hero (BB): $285.95
UTG: $623.55

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $28, UTG calls $20

Flop: ($57) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $32, UTG calls $32

Turn: ($121) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)

ikestoys · #2 10-12-2007, 01:17 AM

no, because his range isn't flop calling range really isn't folding this turn

ronitonline · #3 10-12-2007, 01:58 AM

the only way I can 2nd barell here is if you are confident that villian could be calling without a significant hand preflop and on the flop because he believes his run over you will make it easier to outplay you.

overall i agree with ikestoys and i'd give up.

Nielsio · #4 10-12-2007, 01:59 AM

Calling preflop is definitely not standard 4-handed.

Speedlimits · #5 10-12-2007, 02:01 AM

preflop is bad

Luckyz · #6 10-12-2007, 02:19 AM

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preflop is bad

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Calling preflop is definitely not standard 4-handed.

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so which one is better [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

ASPoker8 · #7 10-12-2007, 02:21 AM

preflop is perfect

Double Eagle · #8 10-12-2007, 02:23 AM

I play it the same and give up on turn.

blackize · #9 10-12-2007, 02:33 AM

I don't think a 20/12 opens his range up that much 4 handed UTG. 99 is only slightly ahead of a 12% opening range and is in pretty bad shape against his 3bet calling range. For these reasons I much prefer just calling pf.

Betting the turn seems bad to me.

ASPoker8 · #10 10-12-2007, 02:36 AM

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