AQ

waffle · #1 07-19-2006, 09:59 PM

SB is unknown

Basic hand

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets,

I decide I will call down a turn c/r UI. Comments?

Dazarath · #2 07-19-2006, 10:02 PM

Anything that doesn't involve folding.

Mossberg · #3 07-19-2006, 10:13 PM

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I decide I will call down a turn c/r UI.

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Certainly this is your only realistic option here. Folding to a C/R with that flush draw on the board, + having what is likely the best hand against an unknown, would simply be a disaster. Call a C/R, And hope for a club on the river! Either way you're seeing a showdown...

Caddy_4_Life · #4 07-19-2006, 10:21 PM

Good.

-Caddy

waffle · #5 07-19-2006, 10:49 PM

How much more expectation do you guys estimate betting hsa over checking?

jba · #6 07-19-2006, 10:49 PM

perfecto

Caddy_4_Life · #7 07-19-2006, 11:19 PM

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How much more expectation do you guys estimate betting hsa over checking?

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Enough to make it the best option. You gotta bet here and call down a c/r. A lot of times when he c/r's he'll be doing so with no pair in his hand and a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], but in reality drawing dead. We gotta encourage this. The times he doesn't semi-bluff the turn he probably will call with a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] anyways as it's HU. And if we do check we can't be guaranteed a bet on the river as we know nothing about this opponent.

-Caddy

MacGuyV · #8 07-19-2006, 11:23 PM

I'm not sure if it's right but I would typically check here.
Turn bluff checkraises aren't bluffs very often at 2/4.

Caddy_4_Life · #9 07-19-2006, 11:30 PM

I don't play a lot of 2/4 anymore, so you could be correct with less semi-bluffs happening at that level. But wouldn't you think we get at least a call (with a draw) or semi-bluff substantially more often from Villain than the times he does holds a King? I'm talking probability wise here...And even those times he does c/r us with a King, it's not the worst thing in the world as we have 12 strong outs.

-Caddy

jba · #10 07-19-2006, 11:34 PM

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I'm not sure if it's right but I would typically check here.
Turn bluff checkraises aren't bluffs very often at 2/4.

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I assume calling down with hopeless hands and draws is pretty common. I think this is an easy bet, he has tons of non-K hands that will call a bet here. much more than 2x, and it doesn't even need to be 2x because we have a lot of outs against Kx and he is probably drawing to 2 outs or less when he calls.