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Old 05-23-2007, 09:56 AM
Dr_Mabuse101 Dr_Mabuse101 is offline
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Default NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

Villain is 26/13,1,3over 100 Hands.
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $84.75
UTG+1: $35.13
CO: $75.15
Hero: $61.95
SB: $65.72
BB: $51.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $2</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $2.37</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7.5</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($19.75, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($19.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $9.87</font>, hero ?
Comments on all streets are preciated.
Preflop in postion I decided just to call.
His flopbet looked weak thats why i raised him. On the turn I have a flushdraw + guthsot. But i dont know if im possible drawing dead. So I decided to keep the pot small and take the freecard. Thoughts ?
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:02 AM
crovax4444 crovax4444 is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

I'd considering raising PF

Of the three options you had of check/raise/fold, you picked the worst one on the flop. He bet 1/2 pot, it isn't huge, but it isn't small either. Fold the flop

Call the river, it looks like a T here.

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Old 05-23-2007, 10:11 AM
ontiltsoon ontiltsoon is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

I don't like calling preflop. Either raise or fold.
As played you beat AT, JQ, KT, 9T, JJ, JT and a bluff. Getting 3 to 1 I would make a crying call.

As played, what do others think about floating the flop?
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:13 AM
prodonkey prodonkey is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

hmmm.. why raise the flop if you're going to check the turn? That doesn't rep the 7 very effectively.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:49 AM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

Preflop is OK, 3betting is OK too.

Raise more on flop, folding is OK too.

Checking turn is OK because getting C/Red would suck.

River is marginal, I dont expect to be ahead here too often, but I probably call.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:23 AM
AFennewald AFennewald is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

preflop is ok but I'd normally 3 bet or fold. I perfer floating to bluff raising the flop. As played I fire the turn again since we picked up a St flush draw and we arent drawing to the nuts so implieds of checking are not as good. Call river.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:34 AM
robert jordan robert jordan is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

I actually like all streets here. RR KQ can get you in tough spots a lot of times when a K or Q hits the flop.

How much was he normally Cbeting the flop? Was this low?

Either way, its only half pot and the raise seems good.

I call river and take notes as to what was shown down. Use this as a read for later play.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:37 AM
JNuey JNuey is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

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hmmm.. why raise the flop if you're going to check the turn? That doesn't rep the 7 very effectively.

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Raising the flop makes it very difficult to Rep the 7 at this level. Most people expect you to raise the turn w/trips.

You're check behind on the turn definitely sucks really bad, you just picked up alot more outs, why wouldn't you continue to show strength? I think a strong bet on turn takes this down a high enough % of the time to make it +EV.

As played, river is an easy call.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:46 AM
TJgniL TJgniL is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

PF - I think raise or call is OK, depends on villain.

Post flop - I think that if you're going to make a play at villain here a better line would be to call flop, raise turn. This reps the 7 better than raising the flop.

I probably make a crying call on the river getting 3:1.
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:02 PM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: KQs - what is the best line ?

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You're check behind on the turn definitely sucks really bad, you just picked up alot more outs, why wouldn't you continue to show strength?

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Because a c/r AI would make Hero weep. If the turn was a blank I'd like a follow-up a lot more, but that turn gives hero so many outs that, readless, he is probably better checking behind so as to avoid putting more money in while behind or looking at an AI.

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I think a strong bet on turn takes this down a high enough % of the time to make it +EV.

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See, I think he gets looked up a lot here, but I'm coming from limit where he'll always get looked up at the least, and c/r'd often.
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