QJo - 6Q6 - Something is wrong here, I don't belong here

F. McSimmons · #1 08-17-2007, 02:01 PM

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, MP3 folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (12 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Both villains are unknown. I'm sure there are about 100 mistakes here.

sean c · #2 08-17-2007, 02:16 PM

I'm not raising the flop after UTG2 smooth calls. After calling the flop if the turn action went bet, raise I would fold. As played you can fold the river without a second thought your never ever good here.

jeanbaptiste36 · #3 08-17-2007, 02:20 PM

Fold preflop.

JJack · #4 08-17-2007, 02:22 PM

i dont limp with trap hand at middle possition (only at late i do)

flop i also raise we have probably the best hand and BB can bet weaker Q , FD or trips 6.

turn - since BB dont raise here i think he dont have trips and i also dont think that ugt has better hand then our 2 top pair cus he dint raise flop
i would 3bet turn for value

sean c · #5 08-17-2007, 02:27 PM

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turn - since BB dont raise here i think he dont have trips and i also dont think that ugt has better hand then our 2 top pair cus he dint raise flop
i would 3bet turn for value

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Spewtastic.

NIX · #6 08-17-2007, 02:29 PM

PF, I limp since I figure most of the other players have bad cards or bad skills.

Flop, I play the same. BB may have us out kicked, but not necessarily since he has a random hand which can include a lot worse queens. Also, if with two people in, BB and UTG+2, I'd raise to also get value from flush draws and/or those worse queens.

Turn, UTG+2 played it exactly like 6x, but you have odds to call for a 4-outer.

River, I probably call as well since the pot is big, but you aren't ahead very often.

Bona · #7 08-17-2007, 02:59 PM

Since we have no reads and also no information about the table dynamic I probably fold this preflop (but then I am a little tight so QJo doesn't have much appeal to me)

As Played: I like the flop raise.
Turn bet is appropriate ... UH OH did UTG+2 slowplay trips on the flop? (most probable) Or maybe make a set w/JJ? (doubtful) I don't think he raises here if he hit Jx or found a draw. Lets call it though. If we are behind (and we often are IMO) we have 4-6 outs and getting 10:1

I call down as you did. He has to have the 6 (probably does) or a set to beat us, QJ to chop, and MP3 isn't beating us so lets call.

River? Do we win here 1 in 12 or so (BB is not raising. He is toast here). I think so at .25/.50 (Thats where I play a lot and I see lots of strange plays from unknowns so I make a crying call on the river.)

marchron · #8 08-17-2007, 03:09 PM

I think this is the most interesting hand ever prefaced with an Uncle Kracker lyric.

Fantam · #9 08-17-2007, 03:26 PM

I am not so sure that I would call the river.

I am fine with the rest of the hand as played.

dirty banana2007 · #10 08-17-2007, 08:07 PM

I would usually fold pre-flop.

on the flop i think a call or raise is ok.

The turn i would prefer to check (but might bet/fold out of habit!)to see the river for free.

Then hopefully we get to see our opponents cards for one bet at most but risk being caught inbetween the BB and utg+2 if they start a raising war.