Ron Paul on CNN at 7EST tonite (5/16)

[surftheiop]

For all you libertarians out there, dont be scared off by the (R) by his name in Congress. I guess his tussle with Guiliani was exactly what he needed to finally get some interviews on major networks.

http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007...l-media-alert/

[Brainwalter]

I didn't watch the debate, how did he do and what was this tussle?

[iron81]

[ QUOTE ]
I didn't watch the debate, how did he do and what was this tussle?

[/ QUOTE ]
They like him in the Legislation Forum too. Linky

[lehighguy]

I didn't see the tussle. I saw the Sean Hannity interview afterwards. Basically, Ron Paul said our interventionist foreign policy in the Middle East may be partially responsible for 9/11. Rudy (captain 9/11) said they were all just pure evil crazies and America shares none of the blame.

[Taso]

And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most silly idea I've ever heard.

[AlexM]

[ QUOTE ]
And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most logical idea I've ever heard.

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

You do realize that people don't generally attack those much stronger than them without provocation, right?

[niss]

[ QUOTE ]
And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most silly idea I've ever heard.

[/ QUOTE ]

The fact that people jump all over the suggestion that part of the resolution of the problem of middle eastern terrorism might involve an analysis of our own policies is downright scary.

[bobman0330]

[ QUOTE ]
And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most silly idea I've ever heard.

[/ QUOTE ]

It seems that there's a lot of fuzziness about causation, blame, responsibility, and other such words. Obviously American policies partially caused 9/11. Al Qaeda didn't target us just for fun. It was because we threaten what they perceive to be their interests.

But it doesn't necessarily follow that the US is responsible or to blame. At least in my mind, those terms carry a certain moral element.

[Kaj]

[ QUOTE ]
And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most silly idea I've ever heard.

[/ QUOTE ]

Facing reality is a good thing.

============================================

Michael Scheuer served in the CIA for 22 years and as chief of the bin Laden unit of the Director of Central Intelligence Counterterrorist Center from 1996-1999.

Scheuer stated that "bin Laden has been precise in telling America the reasons he is waging war on us. None of the reasons have anything to do with our freedom, liberty, and democracy, but have everything to do with US policies and actions in the Muslim world."

He goes on in an interview to state, "I think the most basic thing for Americans to realize is that this war has nothing to do with who we are or what we believe, and everything to do with what we do in the Islamic world. Mr. Bush, Mr. Clinton, Mr. Bush before Mr. Clinton -- they all identified Islamic militancy as being based on the hatred of Western democracy and freedom, and that’s clearly not the case. They surely don’t like our way o life, but very few people are willing to die to keep us from having primary elections or because we have freedom of the press. Universally in the Muslim world, at least according to the most recent polling data, American foreign policy in several specific areas is hated by Muslims. Majorities of 85-90 percent are registered as hating or resenting American policies, towards our support for Israel, our ability to keep oil prices low, or low enough to satisfy Western consumers, our support for Arab tyrannies from Morocco to the Indian Ocean, our support for Putin in Chechnya."

[surftheiop]

Show some support for Ron
http://www.charleston.net/polls/2007/may/debate/