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Old 08-26-2007, 10:28 PM
samh133 samh133 is offline
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i think the turn call is good and i would c/f river.

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If we are calling the turn why are we folding the river?
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:24 AM
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If we are calling the turn why are we folding the river?

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ty sam, word.
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:35 AM
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i think u need to call the river
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:14 AM
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If we are calling the turn why are we folding the river?

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ty sam, word.

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because i think his bluffing frequency (esp for a 4/5 psb on river compared to the tiny turn raise) goes down dramatically. do you disagree?
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:37 AM
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because i think his bluffing frequency (esp for a 4/5 psb on river compared to the tiny turn raise) goes down dramatically. do you disagree?

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yes - if he has enough balls to do this w Ad (which seems reasonably likely given the way people play) - doesnt he have enough balls to fire all rivers? if he is semibluffing tun he is not shutting down. this is 44 or nada and i dont think 44 raises here some huge % of the time - and fd bets flop way more.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:39 AM
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yea i def think this is 44. i think his turn range is {44, semibluffs} and his river range is {44, bluffs} and i think any reasonable opponent would expect a call like always here (meaning theyre not bluffing often).
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:09 AM
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I would bluff the River every time with any two.
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:17 AM
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you cant show up at river with atc.
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