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Old 10-07-2007, 09:33 PM
kleath kleath is offline
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Default Re: Do you think bots are cheating?

RIIT when you play at a site you agree to play by the rules of the site, if you dont play by the rules it is cheating, bots are cheating, they have an advantage that those following the rules dont enjoy. Your argument isnt even relevant to the question at hand.

The comparison to civil rights is completely ridiculous and offensive, they arent even close to analogous.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:45 PM
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RIIT when you play at a site you agree to play by the rules of the site, if you dont play by the rules it is cheating, bots are cheating, they have an advantage that those following the rules dont enjoy. Your argument isnt even relevant to the question at hand.

The comparison to civil rights is completely ridiculous and offensive, they arent even close to analogous.

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Yes this is still the same "whites only" mindset talking here where I'm not allowed to question the sites policies against computer assistance. I'm supposed to just obey and quietly move to the back of the bus.

If I've made you feel uncomfortable then I am glad.

Send an email to your site and apologize for your bigoted mindset and ask them to offer tables to all computer assisted players including bots so that I can freely play with a large roll without fear that the site will steal it.

RIIT
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:45 AM
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I'm supposed to just obey and quietly move to the back of the bus.


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You should probably just get off the bus. If you don't like the way a poker site sets up it's rules then you do not play there, that is your consumer power. There is nothing wrong with a site excluding any type of computer enhancing software that they choose regardless of sense, tact or anything else. If you can't see why this is different than excluding humans, then you are lost I guess.

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If I've made you feel uncomfortable then I am glad.

RIIT

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Finally we come to the real reason for your posts.

soda

ps - if computers become sentient, then your arguments should be reevaluated.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: Do you think bots are cheating?

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RIIT when you play at a site you agree to play by the rules of the site, if you dont play by the rules it is cheating, bots are cheating, they have an advantage that those following the rules dont enjoy. Your argument isnt even relevant to the question at hand.

The comparison to civil rights is completely ridiculous and offensive, they arent even close to analogous.

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Yes this is still the same "whites only" mindset talking here where I'm not allowed to question the sites policies against computer assistance. I'm supposed to just obey and quietly move to the back of the bus.

If I've made you feel uncomfortable then I am glad.

Send an email to your site and apologize for your bigoted mindset and ask them to offer tables to all computer assisted players including bots so that I can freely play with a large roll without fear that the site will steal it.

RIIT

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lol its not even close to the same, in life it isn't optional what color skin you're born with, playing on an online site IS optional. You seem mentally challenged.
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Do you think bots are cheating?

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I'm supposed to just obey and quietly move to the back of the bus.


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You should probably just get off the bus.

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I prefer the strategy of challenging the mindset that doesn't recognize who has a right to be on the bus in the first place. the bus is a place where computers outnumber humans 2 to 1. This would be like entering a non-caucasian region and building a "whites only" casino and then acting offended if somebody challenges the sense of such a policy. Can you do this? yes. Can you do this without trouble from those you've excluded? no.

It would be better if you left the bus yourself or simply stopped trying to control who's on the bus or where they're sitting.

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If you don't like the way a poker site sets up it's rules then you do not play there, that is your consumer power.

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I prefer the strategy of peaceful non-cooperation. Rosa Parks never hurt anybody; she simply decided to not cooperate one day. Her choices were: don't get on the bus, sit at the back of the bus.

Your stance is even worse than what she faced. You don't even want her to get on the bus in the first place (regardless of seating).

This makes you a bigot sir.

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There is nothing wrong with a site excluding any type of computer enhancing software that they choose regardless of sense, tact or anything else.

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It is very wrong and it goes against the natural environment of the internet. If you don't want computer opponents then just get off the bus and goto a live b&m. The internet was built for computer assisted poker players. You and your kind are just visiting for now.

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If you can't see why this is different than excluding humans, then you are lost I guess.

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Well within the context of the internet you and I really are kind of like two different races (or even species); you're a gray matter player (human mind only); while i am a silicon player (mostly, sometimes my gray matter overrides my silicon). You can't even engage the online game with your gray matter without using silicon yet you want to treat me like an alien. How rude is that?

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If I've made you feel uncomfortable then I am glad.

RIIT

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Finally we come to the real reason for your posts.

soda

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Sure, nothing wrong with confronting you with your bigotry. You rely on silicon to engage the game with your gray matter and yet you won't acknowledge silicon players.

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ps - if computers become sentient, then your arguments should be reevaluated.

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Major hypothetical here ... certainly not in our lifetimes. So you're saying a sentient computer is "weaker" or "stronger" than a non-sentient computer at the act of playing poker?

In either case please explain why you think this is a factor in whether or not non-sentient computers should get to play the game.

RIIT
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: Do you think bots are cheating?

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lol its not even close to the same, in life it isn't optional what color skin you're born with, playing on an online site IS optional. You seem mentally challenged.

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It may be better for all should we not elect to dignify his tortured and highly inappropriate analogy with a response.

In other words, please don't feed the trolls.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:06 PM
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lol its not even close to the same, in life it isn't optional what color skin you're born with, playing on an online site IS optional. You seem mentally challenged.

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It may be better for all should we not elect to dignify his tortured and highly inappropriate analogy with a response.

In other words, please don't feed the trolls.

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Maybe you'd like to articulate what you think would be a rational response from a significant population of computer users who'd like to openly play their bot online but find not a single online site willing to acknowledge them.

If you think we should go quietly into the night then stop for a moment and consider how we react to such a posture on your part.

RIIT
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Do you think bots are cheating?

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lol its not even close to the same, in life it isn't optional what color skin you're born with, playing on an online site IS optional. You seem mentally challenged.

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It may be better for all should we not elect to dignify his tortured and highly inappropriate analogy with a response.

In other words, please don't feed the trolls.

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I'm with you on this one.

soda
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:39 AM
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You are now ignoring this user. You will no longer see the body of any of their posts.

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Old 10-09-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Do you think bots are cheating?

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lol its not even close to the same, in life it isn't optional what color skin you're born with, playing on an online site IS optional. You seem mentally challenged.

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It may be better for all should we not elect to dignify his tortured and highly inappropriate analogy with a response.

In other words, please don't feed the trolls.

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I'm with you on this one.

soda

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I'm locking the thread.

Surf
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