scoring only one point in a football game

[oyesmoreofthis]

i was wondering whether or not this were possible. i dont think so, but the only possible scenario where i think it may be doable is the following:

the other team scores a touchdown on you and they are trying an extra point. you block the extra point and run it back, but instead of running it back all the way to the end zone and scoring two points, you decide to run it back ninety yards and stop at the ten or so and drop kick it through the uprights.

by "drop kick" i dont mean punt, i mean like what flutie did on that extra point where the ball hits the ground first. so the only reason this idea of scoring one point wouldnt work is regarding the rules of a drop kick:

can you drop kick a ball from anywhere on the field, or does it have to be from behind the line of scrimmage?

if a field goal attempt/drop kick attempt has to be from behind the line of scrimmage, does this apply to the defense so that there is no way possible that a player could, say, intercept a ball and then drop kick it through the uprights? or would he be able to drop kick it so long as it were from the opposite side of the line of scrimmage (in this case, a 108+ yard field goal)?

any actual insight with some evidence would be appreciated--please dont just say "its a touchback" with no evidence to back it up. my guess is that it would be an illegal kick by the defense and the team that scored the touchdown and was trying the extra point would kick off as normal after a failed extra point.

[Jaguar101]

kicking the ball through the field goal posts would be the same as kicking the ball out of the endzone plain and simple and therefore out of bounds

[Performify]

NFL answer - Defense can't attempt a kick at all.

NFL Official Rules:

2. The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the try is over.

http://www.nfl.com/fans/rules/try

[MyTurn2Raise]

Canadien football

[Performify]

NCAA answer:

SECTION 3. Try Down
How Scored—ARTICLE 1
Approved Ruling 8-3-1
I. During a try, after having obtained possession, Team B fumbles and
Team A recovers in the Team B end zone. RULING: Team B can
fumble after intercepting a pass, catching or recovering a fumble or
recovering a backward pass. Touchdown. Award Team A two points
(Rule 8-3-2-d-1).
II. Team B intercepts Team A’s legal forward pass (PAT attempt) and
returns the ball for a touchdown. RULING: Award Team B two
points. Team B will receive the next free kick, or extra-period rules
govern (Rule 8-3-2-a).
III. B19 is the first player beyond the neutral zone to touch Team A’s
blocked PAT kick when he muffs the kick in the end zone. A66
recovers in the end zone. RULING: Award Team A two points.
IV. During a try, after having gained possession on the one-yard line,
Team B fumbles there and then recovers, and is downed in the Team
B end zone. RULING: Safety. Award Team A one point (Rule 8-1-
1).
Opportunity to Score—ARTICLE 2
Approved Ruling 8-3-2
I. On a try attempt, B2 adds new impetus to a Team A fumble that is
recovered in the Team B end zone by Team B. RULING: One-point
safety (Rules 8-3-1 and 8-5-1).
II. On a try attempt, B2 kicks a Team A fumble into the Team B end
zone and Team B recovers. RULING: One-point safety or the option
of accepting the penalty from the basic spot for illegally kicking the
ball (Rules 8-3-1 and 8-3-3-b-1).
III. On a one-point try attempt, B2 blocks A1’s kick. The ball, which did
not cross the neutral zone, is picked up by A2, and he advances the
ball across Team B’s goal line. RULING: Award Team A two points
(Rule 8-3-1).
IV. On a one-point try attempt, Team A’s kick is blocked. A2 picks up the
ball beyond the neutral zone in the field of play. RULING: The ball
is dead where picked up by A2. The try is over.
V. On a one-point try attempt, Team A’s kick is blocked. The ball is
advanced by runner B1 across Team A’s goal line. RULING: Award
Team B two points (Rule 8-3-1).
VI. On a one-point try attempt, Team A’s kick is blocked. The ball,
untouched beyond the neutral zone, (a) is recovered by B3 on his
one-yard line or (b) hits the ground in Team B’s end zone. RULING:
(a) B3 may advance the ball. (b) The ball is dead, the try is over (Rule
8-3-1).
VII. On a one-point try attempt, Team A’s kick is blocked. The ball is
recovered by B3 and advanced across Team A’s goal line. During
B3’s run, B4 clips. RULING: No score, the try is over, and the
penalty is declined by rule (Rule 8-3-4-b).
VIII. On a try attempt, B1 intercepts Team A’s legal forward pass in his
end zone. He runs the ball across Team A’s goal line, and (a) there
are no fouls during the run, (b) B3 clips during the run or (c) A2
fouls during the run. RULING: (a) Award Team B two points. (b) No
score, the try is over, and the penalty is declined by rule. (c) Award
Team B two points, and the penalty is declined by rule (Rules 8-3-1
and 8-3-4-a and b).
IX. On a try attempt, A1 muffs the hand-to-hand snap from the snapper
and it is recovered by A2, who runs it into the opponent’s end zone.
RULING: Award Team A two points (Rule 2-10-2).
X. On a try attempt, A10 snaps the ball over the head of the holder or
the holder muffs the ball. It is recovered by A3, who runs it into the
end zone. RULING: Award Team A two points.
XI. On a try attempt, quarterback A2, running an option play, throws a
backward pass that is muffed and recovered by A9, who runs it into
the end zone. RULING: Award Team A two points.
XII. On a one-point try attempt, Team A’s kick is blocked and B75
recovers at the two-yard line. As B75 attempts to advance, he
fumbles and the ball rolls into the end zone, where B61 recovers and
is downed. RULING: Safety. Award Team A one point (Rule 8-1-
1).


http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf



per the bolded part, this would be an illegal kick and would be awarded as a one-point safety to the kicking team OR a penalty from the spot of the kick. The kicking team would obviously chose the one point.

[Tragichero]

why would they obviously take the point. If the D player kicks the ball close to the endzone, and that's where the ball would be, I think the other team would take the ball from there with a chance to score six, instead of just one.

[jedi]

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why would they obviously take the point. If the D player kicks the ball close to the endzone, and that's where the ball would be, I think the other team would take the ball from there with a chance to score six, instead of just one.

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Or even if not a six, a good chance at 3.

Edit: Unless it means that Team B would recover the ball. Not sure from the ruling.

[Jaguar101]

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why would they obviously take the point. If the D player kicks the ball close to the endzone, and that's where the ball would be, I think the other team would take the ball from there with a chance to score six, instead of just one.

[/ QUOTE ]

youre kidding, right?

[Performify]

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why would they obviously take the point. If the D player kicks the ball close to the endzone, and that's where the ball would be, I think the other team would take the ball from there with a chance to score six, instead of just one.

[/ QUOTE ]

It would be ball from there with an opportunity to continue the try.

So from the spot of the illegal kick, they could try to kick a 90-yard field goal for 1 point, or try a 80-yard pass/run for two points.

Or just keep the one point awarded from the illegal kick through the end zone...


MS paint goodness:



Philly (light green) tries to kick the extra point for 1 point after scoring a touchdown.

New York Giants (blue) blocks the kick, picks it up, returns it, and tries your crazy kick idea.

Philly has the option of taking a 1-point safety from the illegal kick out of bounds, or has the option of taking the ball at the spot of the illegal kick (roughly their own ten yard line).


i mistakenly used pro team names here - per above this situation could only come up in NCAA football not NFL

[MinRaise]

You can do this in a video game. Score a TD, and intentionally run backwards on the two point conversion for a safety. It makes the score 6-1. In real life, not so much.