what do christians say about chinese people

[Archon_Wing]

Well, being a Chinese American I could never take Christianity seriously once I thought more about it. A book written about stuff that happened in the Middle East by people in the Middle East. They claim to know the "correct" way of living, which like every culture claims to do so. And when I see stuff like Islam, which and other similar competitors and I find it interesting. But I can only see them as literary works.

It would be like 30 different people coming up to you and saying that they know everything (with the truth obviously being in their favor), and everyone else does not. And they have absolutely no proof. Certainly Chinese people have come up with similar superstitions as well. I can only view them all the same.

[carlo]

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Well, being a Chinese American I could never take Christianity seriously once I thought more about it. A book written about stuff that happened in the Middle East by people in the Middle East. They claim to know the "correct" way of living, which like every culture claims to do so. And when I see stuff like Islam, which and other similar competitors and I find it interesting. But I can only see them as literary works.

It would be like 30 different people coming up to you and saying that they know everything (with the truth obviously being in their favor), and everyone else does not. And they have absolutely no proof. Certainly Chinese people have come up with similar superstitions as well. I can only view them all the same.


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Good post. My problem is with OP's initial post which is so lacking in insight, reason or creativity and is so full of "[censored]". Its the best I can give him but I am hopeful for the sun rises again on all of us.

Some of the baboons who followed his post should really take vows of silence.If they do, growth for them should be exponential. I hope he and his minions understand what this "censored" means.

[Archon_Wing]

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Well, being a Chinese American I could never take Christianity seriously once I thought more about it. A book written about stuff that happened in the Middle East by people in the Middle East. They claim to know the "correct" way of living, which like every culture claims to do so. And when I see stuff like Islam, which and other similar competitors and I find it interesting. But I can only see them as literary works.

It would be like 30 different people coming up to you and saying that they know everything (with the truth obviously being in their favor), and everyone else does not. And they have absolutely no proof. Certainly Chinese people have come up with similar superstitions as well. I can only view them all the same.


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Good post. My problem is with OP's initial post which is so lacking in insight, reason or creativity and is so full of "[censored]". Its the best I can give him but I am hopeful for the sun rises again on all of us.

Some of the baboons who followed his post should really take vows of silence.If they do, growth for them should be exponential. I hope he and his minions understand what this "censored" means.

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Certainly when the words "Chinese" and "Christian" cover more than a billion people, broad statements tend to be kinda meaningless.

[surftheiop]

Seeing as your chinese american i would like your opinion on an observation i have made in the last week. Cornell is probabaly 50% white and 20-30% Asian and i went to a few christian group fairs/info sessions and there were typically more asians (mix of international,first gen, 2nd gen. etc) than there were whites. Im curious what your thought is on this observation in this specific context.

[jtd00123]

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Don't Christians think its strange that God choose not to spread his word to the entire human population?

does this suggest that Christianity is actually a man made invention and thus only exists in region it was invented?

Also, if a Christian has a Chinese friend, isn't it his duty to this person to do absolutely everything he can, including physical abuse and torture to convince the Chinese guy to save his soul and believe in Jesus?

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While I agree with the first two sentences, why only target Christians? Aren't all religions, at least ones that have exposure outside their religion, guilty of the same thing. I notice that many secular people who promote cultural relativism and open-mindedness have an extreme, almost illogical hatred for Christians. How hypocritical, as if their beliefs only apply to certain groups of people.

As for the last sentence, are you serious? As a former Christian (currentely agnostic), I don't know of a single passage in the bible that advocates that, and even if there is one, I can tell you that I have not met a single Christian personally that believed in torturing in order to convert someone. If this happened on a regular basis, hell, if it happened at all, the media would have a field day.

This may have happened in the past, but a lot of religions have been guilty of attrocious things in history. This is why I am dumbfounded as to why Christians are the only group considered PC to target. For example, Ghegis Khan converted to Buddhism, the Muslim religion spread throughout the Middle East by the sword, the Samurai killed for the Emporor (their God, and lets not forget Nanking), many tribes of various beliefs practice tribalism (which is a PC way of saying racism) and outside of religion, Mao and Stalin were atheists! .(significant considering atheism has only started becoming widespread in the last 150 years). I could go on and on, but research some history and you would find that mankind is surprisingly similar, and few groups were immune from evil.

Does this mean that all these groups of people are evil? Hell no! It just proves that their are manipulative crazies in every group of people. To look at crazy Christians and say the entire group is hateful is stereotypical and completely illogical. Perhaps you guys have watched too much Colbert and Family Guy.

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My fondest girlfriends have been Asian. To contaminate their happy, sweet, innocent outlook on life with hateful, Christian concepts is a sin against the elegance of humanity.

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Sure, looking at history, there are obviously many Christians that didn't follow their own teachings. But cmon, hateful concepts? Love your neighbor, do unto others, give to the poor, do not kill, yeah, very hateful. Also, isn't condemning an entire group of people, well, hateful?

[Archon_Wing]

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Don't Christians think its strange that God choose not to spread his word to the entire human population?

does this suggest that Christianity is actually a man made invention and thus only exists in region it was invented?

Also, if a Christian has a Chinese friend, isn't it his duty to this person to do absolutely everything he can, including physical abuse and torture to convince the Chinese guy to save his soul and believe in Jesus?

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While I agree with the first two sentences, why only target Christians? Aren't all religions, at least ones that have exposure outside their religion, guilty of the same thing. I notice that many secular people who promote cultural relativism and open-mindedness have an extreme, almost illogical hatred for Christians. How hypocritical, as if their beliefs only apply to certain groups of people.



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I think it's probaly because Christianity is what many of the posters are exposed to, and most of us here have been affected by the agenda of some Christian extremists [UIEGA, etc] But if there were more posters who came from the Middle East, you'd probaly hear more about Islam too.

[jtd00123]

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Regardless, the point of the post was that it is stupid to lump all Christians under the same boat as the extremists and attack the hypocrisy of the open-mindedness concept. Being affected by certain idividuals of a group doesn't make it logical to slanderize the entire group, especially when used to give legitamacy to my side of an issue (both sides are guilty of this, I'm not saying the original poster was, but others after him were). For example, is it logical for me to compare all Muslims to terroists? Is it logical for me to compare all atheists to Stalin? No. As you said, broad statements are meaningless. As a libertarian, I know I been have affected by the agenda of a lot more then just Christian extremists, doesn't make it logical for me to stereotype every group of people that disagree with me.

(Slightly Off topic and not directed at anyone: As a strong supporter of free speech, I am not going to say if I am for or against stereotyping. I will say that if someone is to claim they are strongly against stereotyping, then they should really do some self-evaluation, or they will look like a hypocrite.)

[Iconoclastic]

There are too many kinds of Christians to answer OP's question.

[yellowbastard]

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Don't Christians think its strange that God choose not to spread his word to the entire human population?

does this suggest that Christianity is actually a man made invention and thus only exists in region it was invented?

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This is a good objection that many top christian apologists have trouble with. According to William Lane Craig God so ordered the world that only those who would hear and believe the christian gospel were born in a time and place in history were they would be able to hear it. Hence, all the Native Americans and Asians that never heard the gospel would have never believed it anyway and are now being tormented for their sins against a holy god for all eternity.

Like all other gratuitous rationalizations of religion, it is very convenient.

[jtd00123]

As I said before, using history (very selective history)to stereotype a group of people today is competely nuts. Not every Christian in the Middle ages was a blood thristy crusader, and not every Christian was this man:

http://www.ncsu.edu/midlink/dreams/francis.html

He lived during the Middle Ages, he was anti-war, and against forceful convertion of Muslims. And before you think he was an exception, he had a huge following especially after his death.

Also, has anyone looked at the list of pioneers in classical liberalism, more then half the people in the list were Christian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...cal_liberalism

What an evil bunch of c*nts!! (sarcasm)Of course, this is America, and many Americans that dislike group of people use selective history to paint the entire group with the same brush as if to justify their hate. How ignorant.