100 FO - Pretty Basic Spot That Confuses Me - Page 2

djk123 · #11 10-14-2007, 03:55 PM

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I fold.

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I am schocked to see u say that. Isn't shoving +ev?

JSchnett · #12 10-14-2007, 04:07 PM

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I fold.

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I agree and I appreciate you posting here more lately Curtains.

luckychewy · #13 10-14-2007, 04:09 PM

def fold.

Joefish126 · #14 10-14-2007, 04:10 PM

I hate these situations too. For people saying fold how high would the pair have to be for us to shove? What about raise?

adanthar · #15 10-14-2007, 04:11 PM

snap fold. and I don't think it's an unexploitable shove at all, unless my instincts are wildly off on this one. you guys sure you did it with a bunch of diff call ranges?

mikeJ · #16 10-14-2007, 04:13 PM

66 def raise, ehh 55 prob raise, 44 prob fold.

djk123 · #17 10-14-2007, 04:14 PM

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snap fold. and I don't think it's an unexploitable shove at all, unless my instincts are wildly off on this one. you guys sure you did it with a bunch of diff call ranges?

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i havn't done any calcs or anything so i dunno if it's unexploitable, but it doesn't need to be unexploitable to be +ev.

djk123 · #18 10-14-2007, 04:15 PM

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66 def raise, ehh 55 prob raise, 44 prob fold.

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open folding 44 here is absurdly weak tight

gobboboy · #19 10-14-2007, 04:22 PM

Fold. And I disagree with you, djk, folding 44 here is fine too. Raising it is straight up bad and open shoving, though marginally +EV, is ridiculously high variance and something we should avoid. It's taken me a looooong time to realize this.

djk123 · #20 10-14-2007, 04:31 PM

damn i did that wrong