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Old 10-29-2007, 08:45 AM
Jay_Whufc Jay_Whufc is offline
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Default AA getting donked into on turn

Villain 33/0/0.21 but only 30 hands so not great sample size.
Whats your turn line?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $55.25
SB: $47.15
BB: $21.25
UTG: $48.15
MP: $60
Hero (CO): $53.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $2.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($6) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.75</font>, SB calls $4.75

Turn: ($15.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

I shut down into pot control mode as this looks like a WA:WB scenario. Although his AF does worry me a lot.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

What could he call a pfr with - the only thing I can see that beats us is A8 suited. You hold 2 of the Aces, so I'm not sure I believe him.
I'd call the turn and try and get a fairly cheap showdown - expect villain to flip over TT-QQ
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

call turn and call/raise most rivers. Bet bigger on flop too.
I am never folding, if he hit trips good for him but there's a wide range of worse hands he'll stack with. I think he has a flush draw here like never with that aggression factor.

If opponent were more aggressive I'd probably minraise turn to induce a shove from flush draws and worse hands.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

I'd go with c/c turn and c/c river. He could have 22, or 44 here preflop hoping UTG and/or BB comes along for sick implied odds. I don't like his turn bet into you so I take a WA/WB line and try to get to showdown as cheap as possible. I think flop bet is fine.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

if villian checks the river I definatly bet 1/3 pot
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

his range here is mostly pocketpairs, all of which we're ahead of. though he could have a naked A, even morons can tell which boards are likely to hit our range.
Flop bet looks fine to me, as played call turn and get value on the river.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:00 AM
Jay_Whufc Jay_Whufc is offline
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

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call turn and call/raise most rivers. Bet bigger on flop too.


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Why should I bet bigger on flop? My bet is standard ~3/4 pot on a board that is not particulary drawy.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

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What could he call a pfr with - the only thing I can see that beats us is A8 suited. You hold 2 of the Aces, so I'm not sure I believe him.
I'd call the turn and try and get a fairly cheap showdown - expect villain to flip over TT-QQ

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agree except i am raising turn all day baby,

you think he is leading a full house on the turn? it's possible but seems unlikely, j8 t8, x8 or something like that is possible but i'm looking to extract value from 99-kk and worse.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:09 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: AA getting donked into on turn

call, definitely call.

I hate a turn minraise fwiw.

I'd never fold this. Your ahead too often. Maybe if he potted a heart river or something but besides that...and even then, its pretty unlikely I'll fold after just calling the turn.
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