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Old 09-07-2007, 05:56 PM
cameronbarry cameronbarry is offline
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Default top two on ridic drawy heavy board

10 20 6m today, villain is samd who i haven't much history with, seems decent atleast though.

PokerStars Game #11926283425: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2007/09/07 - 16:53:40 (ET)
Table 'Matterania' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Eeedz ($2691.50 in chips)
Seat 2: pono70 ($2215 in chips)
Seat 3: punketty ($5348.90 in chips)
Seat 4: DrunkPPlaya ($1930 in chips)
Seat 5: tsifknits ($2797 in chips)
Seat 6: samd20 ($2989 in chips)
pono70: posts small blind $10
punketty: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tsifknits [9d Td]
DrunkPPlaya: folds
tsifknits: raises $40 to $60
samd20: calls $60
Eeedz: calls $60
pono70: folds
punketty: calls $40
*** FLOP *** [9c 2h Tc]
punketty: checks
tsifknits: bets $180
samd20: raises $420 to $600
Eeedz: folds
punketty: folds
tsifknits:............

what's your line here and why. thanks
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: top two on ridic drawy heavy board

just reading this i got tilted out of my mind
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: top two on ridic drawy heavy board

Call and lead a blank turn looks good to me, or just 3 bet and get it in now.
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: top two on ridic drawy heavy board

shove? board's real draw heavy and i dont think you want to get too cute 150BB's deep, i'd prolly put him on AQ, AJ, KQ of clubs, 78, qj, because youre deep his range prolly opens up alot, i also think AA or KK is a real possibility here, maybe JJ or QQ and he wanted to see the board first, if he's got a set, sucks
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: top two on ridic drawy heavy board

i didn't tilt me all that much during the hand, or now really i'm just really curious as to the general consensus here. i figure his range is something like 40% 222 40% KJcc QJcc 78cc Q8cc AJcc 15% T9 and 5% random crap/bluff.

i haven't done the math on this but if i'm even close to his true range and my percentages estimates are nearly accurate this is such an insane spot.

AAismyfriend yeah i thought about that, the problem is that the entire deck sucks! there really are so few blanks. any paint sucks, any club, deuce (maybe), even 8/7/6 suck because of some whacky gapped straight draw. i either gotta shove right here or muck don't you think?

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Old 09-07-2007, 06:41 PM
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really doubt overpairs are even close to a significant part of his range garnanasaur.
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: top two on ridic drawy heavy board

You think he has a set of 2s 40% of the time?
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: top two on ridic drawy heavy board

He certainly has air or a worse draw more than 5% of the time lol (ie gutshots etc)
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: top two on ridic drawy heavy board

uhhh shove?
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: top two on ridic drawy heavy board

maybe it's just because whenever i have essentially a second nut hand i always assume the guy giving me heat in fact has the nuts, but my read on him in this hand is there is no way he is bluffing. it just seemed like such a strong raise, into the initial raiser with two other callers behind yet to act.

my immediate impression was 222, or QJcc. honestly i haven't been back at 10 20 long enough to say how much this is a set and how much it's a draw. you guys tell me.

i really doubt that is a bluff more than 1/20 times. i wasn't saying he has gutshots <%5.
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