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Old 10-22-2007, 07:08 PM
TheBad TheBad is offline
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Default New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

This happened like one hundred times in the last 50 sessions, and i donīt know what to do. I sit down, and get something like JJ or AKo, and this is what happens:

(Obv. i have no stats on villain..)


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($0.80)
SB ($11.05)
BB ($4.45)
UTG ($19.55)
UTG+1 ($11.45)
MP1 ($1.45)
MP2 ($1.90)
Hero ($10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $0.9</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.80, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($2.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $3.4</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $5.45

PF: First hand, so i make it extra big. Doesnīt really help [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Flop: I should just give up, but then again i decide to make it big. When he raises, i still think i might have the best hand, but my only option would be to push AKo UI.

This hand makes me feel very bad. Next time i just fold every hand but AA in the first orbit ?
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:13 PM
Brocktoon Brocktoon is offline
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

The PF raise is larger than normal, but at that level its probably not a bad thing, especially if they'll call you with diminated hands some of the time.

You miss the flop and your c-bet gets CRed. Oh well, sucks but you have to fold.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:13 PM
jlp_2908 jlp_2908 is offline
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

Perfectg play imo, keep doin what your doin if they keep raising you like that you will get your money back when you hit... Play your pps like that too.
If not, change tables you dont want players like that at your table.
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:05 PM
toymach776 toymach776 is offline
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

your pf raise is too big here. you have two limpers in front so 0.50 or 0.55 is standard for me here. No need to raise to 9BB.
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Flop: I should just give up, but then again i decide to make it big

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dont give up here. your cbet was is standard and I would not call it real big. After getting check raised it appears that villain has outflopped you. fold. there is no reason to think that villian is making a play at you.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:30 PM
Das Budrick Das Budrick is offline
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

you played it fine, just fold and move on
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:11 PM
bigfrank bigfrank is offline
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

yup standard play..lately my AK's rarely hit
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

First, Second or Billionth hand - don't over-raise preflop. 0.6$ would be fine. Flop fold is good.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

standard
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:38 AM
Djcoax Djcoax is offline
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

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First, Second or Billionth hand - don't over-raise preflop.

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QFT. The raise was a bit too much , try to stick to a max 5 or 6 times the big blind when raising from that position preflop.
But you played this perfectly.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: New to the table, AKo, loose a lot of money in these spots. (NL10)

Except preflop it's OK. Here is my thoughts:
1) Check to you, means 70%, that pot is yours, unless villain likes to slowplay, but IMO, readless, it's a standard c-bet.
2) Flop structure. The flop looks not so bad, flush draw and no big cards, no straight draws.
3) Don't bet big here, bet like 1.3-1.6, because 1.5 and 1.7 seems to have almost same effect as 1.3, but more expensive. If you have good hand, then bet 1.7-2.0.
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