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11-13-2007, 08:29 PM
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2 interesting hands imho (nl200)
ipoker nl200
hand 1 Hero 680$ BTN 425$ is hafaia, 16/8/3 after 1.2k hands 26% WTSD no relevant reads imho ... generally nitty/uncreative BB 320$ is 21/14/3 after 110 hands 19% WTSD no other reads i bet the turn to fold out better hands because i'm repping something very strong, but i'm not happy with it, i might fold a king (KQ) => cleaning up 3 of my outs ... i don't wanna get shoved of my draw though so, turn play? Hero openraises in MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] to 8$ BTN calls SB calls BB calls Flop is (32$ pot) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] blinds check, Hero bets 30$, BTN calls, SB folds, BB calls Turn is (122$ pot) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] BB checks, Hero bets 110$ ... hand 2 422$ effective stacks raise on the flop good? i was planning on second barreling almost any turn, is this good or should i give up when called on the flop? i wasn't exactly nitty but it's not like i ran over the table or over him ... once i pick up my draw is second barreling beter or do we check because he is giving us a freecard alot and we don't get shoved of our draw ... do we have implied odds to call a 2/3 pot bet from him on the turn? villain is 12/6/1 after 120 hands 30% WTSD no reads 5 handed CO openraises to 8$ some folds I call A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB(good/bad 200bb deep?) Flop (16$ pot) is 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I check, he bets 14$, I raise to 48$, he calls. Turn (112$ pot) is T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I bet 90$ 
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#3
11-14-2007, 07:45 AM
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Re: 2 interesting hands imho (nl200)
I don't like the hands. In the first one your building the pot for someone with KQ or K9 and your flushouts probably aren't good as well (though you might get a better FD to fold)
Hand 2 is horrible. Fold pre, check-fold flop, check-call turn (if he bets weak enough). If you really want to play back, 3-bet preflop.
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#4
11-14-2007, 07:55 AM
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Re: 2 interesting hands imho (nl200)
mk, I don't really like either hand, but okay.
I could see a move in hand 1 - c/r the flop or the turn. You have a monster draw. They MIGHT fold if you nail them. Personally, I c/r the flop for all of it (or enough to make it painfully obvious that I want all of their monies in the middle right then. If they keep a little back here, I open shove pretty much any turn. Hand 2, call pre is meh. Don't do it often as it would be a leak. c/f flops that don't nail your hand hard.
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#7
11-14-2007, 11:00 AM
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Re: 2 interesting hands imho (nl200)
I have to admit I misread villains preflop stats, which is actually quite important.
In general, preflop isn't bad, as long as you're willing to make plays on good flops to compensate for the -EV preflop move. With villains stats it gets worse, so that should make it a fold. Though even with those stats, villain probably has a K or better here like 25%, 30% max. Villain could very wel be calling flop with KQ, TT+ type of hands, which fold a lot to the 2nd barrel. We have quite some equity against those hands as well. It's better against a looser opponent, but it's definately not horrible here.
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#10
11-14-2007, 11:22 AM
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Re: 2 interesting hands imho (nl200)
Hand and number of combo's (we have an ace):
AA 3 KK 3 AK 9 KQ 12 QQ 6 JJ 6 TT 6 I think villain folds 24 combos (KQ,QQ,JJ), raises/calls 21 combos (AA,KK,AK,TT). We bet less then pot, so we don't have to win 50%, we still have equity against villains range. Maybe he doesn't fold KQ. If he ever shows up with 99, 88 we go up, if he can have KT, K7, K3 here we go down.
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