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Old 09-05-2007, 06:15 PM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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Default 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

Villain is a 2+2er , used to think he spewed a lot.. but my perception has changed fairly significantly in the past few motnhs.

Is the river raise too much?
What SHOULD be each of our thoguht process on the other guys range up to this point of the hand?

I am capable of capping pair + diamond + straight draw in some situations (maybe not this).

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font> ...
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:45 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

I think it's fine.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:21 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

"What SHOULD be each of our thoguht process on the other guys range up to this point of the hand?"

sb's preflop raise: you think "lol"
your preflop call: sb thinks "lol"
sb's flop bet: you think "lol"
your flop call: sb thinks "lol"
sb's turn bet: you think "lol"
your turn raise: sb thinks "he probably doesn't have a flush because he didn't raise the flop. he could have Jx, 9x, QT, T7, ace or king of diamonds, and maybe just a ten"
sb's turn 3-bet: you think "it is not terribly likely for him to be pure bluffing because there is a good chance i have a good hand like Jx or a straight or two pair. he probably has KJ+, a set, a flush, two pair, or a straight."
your turn cap: sb thinks "ok he has to be for real. he has a straight with QT/T7 or a flush."
sb's river bet: you think "he doesn't care that i have T7 minimum. his river bet is weird because he should mostly check after i cap the turn. maybe he is afraid i'm going to check something behind on the ace for some reason. he is wrong though, so i am confused. maybe he has AdA."

i think you should call the river bet. i don't think he should bet the river usually.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:50 PM
The Funky Llama The Funky Llama is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

call the river
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

riase the river. Are you aware that you have 5 cards of the same suit? AND that two of them are in your hand?
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

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call the river

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Definitely. This is a spew. He saved you a bet by not going for a river CR.

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Old 09-05-2007, 11:01 PM
vmacosta vmacosta is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

Yeah, his range includes about 25 different flushes. All of them make sense til the river. A lot of them bet the river either hoping to 3-bet or not wanting to get 3-bet.

I don't see him showing up with enough sets/str8s to beat that range, let alone be the significant fav you need to be to raise.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:11 AM
Bluffman Bluffman is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

in LHE it really doesn't matter what you do when you have a 5 card hand.

seriously.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:34 AM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

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in LHE it really doesn't matter what you do when you have a 5 card hand.

seriously.

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wha?? plz to be explaining. this is either extremly deep or makes no sense at all :P
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?

edit: bah, n/m....I suck at teh counting
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