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Old 10-07-2007, 09:31 PM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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Please Please Please give us a VPP at .50 rake at 2/4 limit and above, and cap headsup rake there. I would start tables so much more often if HU and 3-handed weren't raked to death.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:52 PM
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Please Please Please give us a VPP at .50 rake at 2/4 limit and above,

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good god, that would be sick. Theres no way this happens tho
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:23 PM
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Would it really be that sick?
They only rake $0.50 if the table is 2 or 3-handed.
Min-rake at 4-handed is $1.
I guess it would be a bit better because I agree that the super-rake and lack of FPP's really makes it tough to justify sitting at or starting such tables. But tables fill up quickly enough usually where I just don't think of this as being that sick since you just won't get that many 3-player hands for it to make much of a difference.

However, while I don't think it's a big deal I do think there really is no reason why they shouldn't give you a VPP when 3-handed at $0.50 rake.
$0.50 rake at 3-handed is the same contributed rake as $1 rake when 6-handed....about $0.17 contributed rake for each player. Yet on a 3-handed situation where you contribute your $0.17 you get nothing in return which definitely seems a bit unfair.

Correcting this is not complicated. Just make it minimum-rake of $0.50 for 2/4 limit and higher as suggested and you have suddenly given your players a greater incentive to start tables without really giving away the farm or anything. You are just giving the 3-handed players the same thing per contributed-rake that the 6-handed players already get.
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:36 PM
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But tables fill up quickly enough usually where I just don't think of this as being that sick since you just won't get that many 3-player hands for it to make much of a difference.


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This is because you're a holdem player. I can sit and play HU or 3-way Razz or TD for ages, sometimes even Stud/8. But it pains me to be raked twice as much as FT/UB and get virtually nothing back for it.
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:55 PM
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aha. that makes sense. When you said 'limit games' I was definitely just thinking of holdem.
You absolutely deserve to get FPP's for all your $0.17 contributred-rake HU and 3-player hands at razz, omaha, etc.

I don't know too much about the details of how the other sites do the rake. But obviously if you are getting straight rakeback there you are getting plenty back per hand whereas at Stars you really are paying a lot and getting zilcho on a lot of those hands.

I'm in your camp 100% now. This is definitely an unfairness that should be corrected.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:42 AM
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bob, Im retarded. I forgot min rake is a dollar at that level, so I was thinking 6 handed getting a point at .50 cent rake.
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