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Old 08-16-2007, 11:07 AM
XHitman014 XHitman014 is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

Can you really ask for a better board texture to c-bet with? I guess K22 or something like that...

I continue repping AK. Most villians with stats like this 4-bet with AK pre-flop. I'd be somewhat suspicious of button slow playing AA/KK but discount the possiblity since he had some to act behind him. SB has a range of QQ-88 and some SCs. Both villians' stats appear good so I don't see many AQ/AJ type hands calling PF.

If you're going to squeeze, at least on this flop you have to c-bet.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:47 AM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

Preflop seems fine to me. Just unlucky to get called. You might consider making a bigger raise to get more FE.

On the flop I'm mostly worried about button. SB most likely has a small pair. Button could have a lot of hands. I probably just c/f because any reasonable bet commits over 1/2 your stack. Sometimes villains have a hand and you have to cut your losses.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

Preflop is good, but I probably give up on the flop.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

Villians are aggressive. I kind of like your 3-bet against these guys. However, I would not do it everyday of the week.

So little FE with you CB. And you will shut out villians holding garbage. Dont CB.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

pf was a good move. I think I have to give up at this point with 2 callers. It's a shame it didn't work, but the kind of villain who calls with a weak A (highly likely given pf) is the kind of villain who will be calling down or making it a bluff-your-stack type of thing to get them off of it. The latter is usually just too expensive for me.

YOu might also see a chk/chk after you chk and you can think about the delayed cbet there.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

Preflop is fine if you don't do it all the time, and if you are going to do it, this seems like the right crew to do it against. On the flop, I could go either way. I guess without reads/table history/knowing your table image, I would lean towards a fold. But I'd be looking for some reason to make a c-bet, and would c-bet if I had not been too active recently.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

i looooove this squeeze spot. having one let alone both villains call is a rarity. you take this down so often 24o looks like KK to me.

anyway...as played with both villains calling, i think putting any money in on this turn is spew.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

I hate pre flop. I also hate flop texture. check/fold. Most times when there's 2 people calling 3bets that big an Ace is in someone's hands.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

lol at hating PF. this is such a profitable squeeze it aint even funny.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 Squeeze PF cbet or not?

I'm a little surprised at the prevailing opinion that giving up >>>>> c-betting. I thought it was probably best to give up, but not by such a large margin.

All we have are stats for reads, but with those, what ranges are you all putting people on? It seems like you are weighting them pretty high towards A-x, where x is a good enough kicker to continue if hero c-bets. Either that, or you think that villains will continue with a PP a lot.

We're done if called or raised, but I would think a roughly 2/3-pot bet takes this down quite often. Maybe not enough to make it +EV, but at least close?
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