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Old 07-04-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default $100nl, AKo 4bet OOP. Valuebet river?

I was kinda lost on the flop, and was thinking nothing that I could beat would call here. Does anyone advocate to cbet this flop? And how about the rest of the streets?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $122.29
BB: $100.00
Hero (UTG): $302.00
CO: $99.50
BTN: $121.13

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is a 34/24/4 LAG over a small sample size</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BTN calls $16.00

Flop: ($49.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($49.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, BTN calls $30.00

River: ($109.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ??
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:58 AM
Spy Dog Spy Dog is offline
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Default Re: $100nl, AKo 4bet OOP. Valuebet river?

I fire $29 on the flop and plan on CRAI on turn if he calls.

Flop check isn't bad, though. However, it sets a bad precedent if you show down because you may lose the ability to cbet profitably in pots that you miss.

River: I might fire weakly, like $20ish and make it look like I have TT-QQ. Of course, I am calling any raise if I fire that weak. By firing weakly you encourage bluff-raises and calls from PPs, while losing some value against KQ/KJ/KT.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:03 AM
Oct0puz Oct0puz is offline
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Default Re: $100nl, AKo 4bet OOP. Valuebet river?

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River: I might fire weakly, like $20ish and make it look like I have TT-QQ. Of course, I am calling any raise if I fire that weak. By firing weakly you encourage bluff-raises and calls from PPs, while losing some value against KQ/KJ/KT.

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Many of the hands that calls the turn bet beats a lot of those hands that you try to represent with your small bet, so he wont bluff. I would just shove, he's only got $67 left.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: $100nl, AKo 4bet OOP. Valuebet river?

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I would just shove

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Old 07-04-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: $100nl, AKo 4bet OOP. Valuebet river?

I hate those pf min-rz's

I think he has AA/QQ/AK here mostly.
I don't think QQ will call a push, so I think river is c/c.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:39 AM
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Default Re: $100nl, AKo 4bet OOP. Valuebet river?

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I don't think QQ will call a push, so I think river is c/c.

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you think QQ bets the river??



op bet flop as played push
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: $100nl, AKo 4bet OOP. Valuebet river?

just shove, if you're gonna 4bet raise more
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