5/10: I have a flush

Leader · #1 05-25-2007, 10:53 PM

Online 5/10

Villains aren't very good. Very loose/passive pf and loose/dumb post flop

MP1 raises, 3 CC'ers, I cool call in the SB with 76 of clubs, BB calls.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, BB checks, MP1 bets, first CC'er raises, second CC'er 3-bets, third CC'er caps, I call, BB folds, MP1 folds, rest call.

Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

First CC'er checks, second CC'er bets, third CC'er raises, I lolz then...

phishguy · #2 05-25-2007, 11:08 PM

Call out.
Cant really raise this pot, and can not really fold it either.

James. · #3 05-26-2007, 01:43 AM

3bet. as long as the other club doesn't come, based on your "dumb postflop" statement, i think they "feel" safe and we need to maximize the value of our flush. sure we're in a bad spot if the turn gets capped, but i really don't think it'll happen very often unless we're crushed(which is not very often) or they are really dumb postflop(inwhich case it's a no-brainer).

BigBadBabar · #4 05-26-2007, 02:23 AM

i would 3bet the turn

soapstar · #5 05-27-2007, 04:14 AM

where can i find games like this?

Clarkmeister · #6 05-27-2007, 04:55 AM

The reason we won't get 4-bet often is because it's really likely one of the flop raisers has the one-card nut flush draw.

Leader · #7 05-27-2007, 02:50 PM

So anyway. I 3-bet. Second CC'er caps. Call. Call. I check and overcall the river. Capper has Q8 of clubs. Turn raiser TT. MHING

Right after the hand I was wondering why I didn't fold the turn, but after thinking about it a bit, I'm almost certain I had at least one of them beat, which means I probably have them both beat more the 25% of the time. So I can't fold.

I'm not convinced 3-betting is the best option though. meh...doesn't matter so much so long as we don't fold.

Nate tha\\\' Great · #8 05-27-2007, 03:10 PM

How often do we have to be drawing dead on this flop before a fold becomes correct? 40% of the time? 60%? 75%.

I think we're drawing dead on the flop somewhere between 50-60% of the time, FWIW, and there are a lot of cards to dodge when we're ahead.

schnukums · #9 06-03-2007, 06:16 PM

3bet if capped call down any none club river. If not capped raise river.