1/2$ C/R on flop with marginal hand

Gelford · #1 05-23-2007, 07:07 AM

First few orbits no read other than villian isn't a retard

Should I defend here ?

Is calling down passively better ?

Or should I just donk the flop ?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

guenttrs · #2 05-23-2007, 07:20 AM

Preflop is a fold for me until i have a read that villain steals much to wide.

After you decide to invest money to see this flop you need to play middle pair. I think c/r flop, bet turn is a standard line here b/c it puts pressure on villain.

I dont like a donk because its doesnt extract money from weaker hands. If villain calls you have still no information about his hand strength. How would you play the turn after your flop donk gets a raise? When your c/r gets a 3bet its an easy fold.

Innocentius · #3 05-23-2007, 07:47 AM

I also think pf is a fold against an unknown.

On the flop, your c/r is good. A lot of the time you will fold hands like QJ, QT, JT, etc, which have 6 live outs against you. If they don't fold, you charge them to draw.

If you get into lots of blind-fights against the same opponent, you might have to vary your line a little, but I think the one you took should be the standard.

carlk73 · #4 05-23-2007, 07:57 AM

Hi,

I take it you called the raise pre-flop as you suspect a steal; but surely 86o is never worth defending even if the player steals on a regular basis?

CK