NL200 - Hey, I river my set..... baaah... and get c/r AI

[Herrigel]

Villain is like 17/12/2.5 after a couple of hundred mined hands. No reads, no history.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $283.20
BB: $183.80
UTG: $251.50
MP: $397.95
CO: $202.00
Hero (BTN): $197.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $8.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $8.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00

Turn: ($49) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($49) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $374.95</font>, [i]Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Kapten]

Sick spot, fold I guess to many draws out.

[pdoran10]

id bet the turn. as played I fold the river.

[brutalBeater]

I fold the river here

[immesan]

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id bet the turn.

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Why do you wanna bet the turn?

Looking at the hand I wanna say fold river but i probably snap call without much thought..but then again thats why im going busto

[djj6835]

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Why do you wanna bet the turn?

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B/c we likely have the best hand an it is also likely that villain picked up some sort of draw.

[Bukem_]

blech its pretty gross spot. 17/12s are just so bad though, if they use this line with 444, 333, 222 on turn going for cr all in, they may just do it on river as well. They 100% disregard bd flush and the straight when they have a set makes it pretty much impossible to fold.

[Warteen]

I like a call here on the river. I feel like you've shown him you're pretty weak on the turn by checking behind - it's entirely possible he was looking for a checkraise on that street with an already made hand, or with a bluff. If he was somehow on a backdoor flush draw, I can't help but feel that he would have continued to bet; what hand bets the flop and checks the turn that has you beat on the river? The only reasonable holding I can think of is TTT, but 222 and 333 play the same. I guess AT and overpairs are possible too, and you have those crushed. I don't see A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] as a big part of Villain's range with this line. The river just looks like it could be a bluff a large portion of the time (since you appear to just be stabbing at the pot), and I can't help but feel that most Villains will bet their backdoored flush for value after you've checked behind on the turn, not check again hoping you'll stab at it and push hoping you're curious enough to look them up with top pair. Your hand is very strong and very well-disguised, and I think this is worth calling.

[Suigin406]

i fold river, too many draws and the river completed some of them imo...

i suppose though a smaller set is possible and he was going to c/r u on the turn...

[mad1]

If he had an obnoxious nickname I'd probably call him