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Old 10-25-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default KK line check

Villian is 30/18 over 50 hands. No real reads. I know I'm gonna get a lot of "if u call the turn u have to call the river" responses, but I never agree w/ those since the dynamics of the hand change on river dramatically.
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($626.15)
MP ($231.15)
Button ($94.90)
SB ($171)
BB ($91.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($64) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

River: ($124) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $110 (All-In)</font>
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:13 PM
rakes.a.beach rakes.a.beach is offline
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Default Re: KK line check

I'd call turn and fold river.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: KK line check

fold the turn
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: KK line check

I'm going to have to agree with call turn and fold river.

Although villain is a bit loose preflop with the calls, small pocket pairs fit into a large part of his range here. If I hit my set I would check into you being the preflop raiser who probably cbets a lot, and raise trying to get some more money in the pot. From there I would lead out for value on the rest of the streets, protecting my hand and getting value, so his line fits a set here.

Other possible holdings is a mid PP but I think they would probably raise more on the turn, trying to take down the pot before an over card comes.

X5 is always a possibility but I think a very small one, not to worried about the straight here.

AQ fire on the turn? Don't think so, and would probably raise more on flop if on a steal.

Just can't think of anything you beat, perhaps ahead of JJ but I'd have to fold.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: KK line check

W/ the Q on the river I don't think anyone sane is pushing 77,88,99,TT,JJ, which is the only reason I called turn (along w/ QQ)
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