I don't like my QQ much.

[ofishstix]

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I call. To many draws and Jx hands that you beat to be able to fold imo.

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what draws? AKhh and AQhh. And in terms of the Jx hands he can only have AJ and I don't typically put unknowns on the bottom of their range as a rule of thumb.

[Wolfram]

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I'd fold now and curse when I see him spewing around the next orbits.

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Bingo. I really don't know if I was beat here or not. He claimed to have QQ too. He ended up being a 55/20 spewtard. I woulda instacalled had I known. (Later on, I rivered a straightflush vs his turned full house though so it was all good [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) W/ a full stack and avatar reads (lol) I put him on being a TAG [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I find that it has served me well when I'm facing an unknown to assume that he is more likely to be a spewtard than he is to be decent/solid. If you routinely fold in spots like this you're probably missing out on a lot of value.

[ofishstix]

lol, good point. i still fold cause im weak/tight

[Wolfram]

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I call. To many draws and Jx hands that you beat to be able to fold imo.

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what draws? AKhh and AQhh. And in terms of the Jx hands he can only have AJ and I don't typically put unknowns on the bottom of their range as a rule of thumb.

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Why are you narrowing his range so much? Villain opened from MP and called a 3-bet. This is not enough info to assume that his range is that tight. I put all sorts of sc's in his range.

[RivFader]

Don't fold QQ in a RR pot if you get a good flop. Without reads this is instacall.

[Wolfram]

I did some stoving.

We have to call $130 to win $270, meaning we need 32.5% equity for a call to be neutral EV.

If we give him a reasonably tight range we still have a profitable call:


35,640 games 0.005 secs 7,128,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.446% 33.12% 01.33% 11804 472.50 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 65.554% 64.23% 01.33% 22891 472.50 { JJ+, 44-33, AhKh, AhQh, AJs, AJo }

[orange]

no reads, i call.

[Nick Royale]

Call. We're not in great shape, but we're getting great odds.

[BGnight]

What if this was a regular 20/16, decent TAG, type?
(actually, this makes the call easier I think)

[Wolfram]

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lol, good point. i still fold cause im weak/tight

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Play overrolled. Being a bankroll nit is fine, being a playing nit is missing out on value.