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Old 06-03-2007, 09:34 AM
SpecT SpecT is offline
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Default 200NL - KK preflop deep

villain is a standard 20/17/3 reg. not much history between us. i wasn't sure what to do preflop because we're both so deep, i think if we 4bet he shoves AA/KK and folds everything else. Also, not sure what to do postflop.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $503.47
BB: $40.00
UTG: $164.80
MP: $111.98
CO: $40.00
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $332.80</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $23.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $16.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($48) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $40.00</font>, Hero calls $40.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($128) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">River:</font> ($128) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $102.00</font>, Hero calls $102.00

Pot Size: $332.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - KK preflop deep

make it $100 on the flop.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - KK preflop deep

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i think if we 4bet he shoves AA/KK and folds everything else.

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This is exploitable [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

4-betting is fine, as is calling. I think the river is a fold, he's (obv.) not valuebetting worse and I doubt he'll show up w/ a bluff very often (bad board to bluff at given action!). The betsize also looks really value-ish.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - KK preflop deep

2 questions -

if we 4bet are we calling a shove?

if we make it $100 on the flop are we calling a shove?
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:07 AM
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if we make it $100 on the flop are we calling a shove?

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yep
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - KK preflop deep

1st - yeah, but I wouldn't be too happy about it without history.

2nd - I think making it $100 on the flop is pretty bad to begin with. Doubt he'll ever shove worse.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - KK preflop deep

I like the way you played this.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - KK preflop deep

If you think hes folding everything but AA/KK to a 4bet preflop then wow is he exploitable. I seriously doubt he is though. If I call preflop it is to extract a cbet and disguise my hand a little, NOT because I'm scared to go broke with KK. We're not even that deep, give us 250bb+ or something and I like your line. I would raise the flop, but I don't mind flop call if you put it in on a lot of turns; obviously the Q wasn't very helpful.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - KK preflop deep

Jay, do you expect the general 20/17 to stack off w/ JJ on this flop?
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:44 AM
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I think the river is a fold, he's (obv.) not valuebetting worse and I doubt he'll show up w/ a bluff very often (bad board to bluff at given action!). The betsize also looks really value-ish.

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This isn't ever jacks?
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