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Old 11-10-2007, 01:40 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default $22r - Bubble - Strange Spot

Poker Stars, $20 + $2 NL Hold'em Tournament, 1,000/2,000 Blinds, 7 Players
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MP: 62,943
CO: 56,736
BTN: 31,154
Hero (SB): 55,706
BB: 27,299
UTG: 40,870
UTG+1: 50,374

Pre-Flop: (4,400) A J dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to 4,999</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 16,210</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls 11,211

Flop: (35,820) 3 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Preflop: This guy is opening any 2 from any position since its bubble time. I was planning on just 3bet/calling, but he flats? wtf

Flop: Do I just c/f now?
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: $22r - Bubble - Strange Spot

Check fold flat pre is huge imo.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: $22r - Bubble - Strange Spot

Also thoughts on preflop?

Edit: I'm dumb [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: $22r - Bubble - Strange Spot

my standard line here is to shove flop. if he's solid i can't see how he can be huge after flatting. you're obv not raise/folding so why wouldn't he just stick it in if he had the goods.

also i like a shove preflop
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: $22r - Bubble - Strange Spot

If you flat called pre you could c/f on this flop...

but when you are already in this far I agree with Djk123 that you have to shove him here especially considering his rather unconventional line...

I dont think I like a preflop shove... while it is basically the same play it has different merits then shoving as a c-bet on the flop here... basically you allow your opponent to play far to perfectly against you if you shove pre because he is just folding unless he does have a real hand this time...
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: $22r - Bubble - Strange Spot

Jam city, the flat call preflop is more likely to be weakness than strength imo. Any reasonable player shoves preflop with hands that beat AJ.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: $22r - Bubble - Strange Spot

Why you think someone with 25 bb's is raising any 2 from EP even on the bubble I can't figure out, but as played I like shoving the flop. The flat pre seems more weak to me than strong, especially on the bubble when people like to get their monsters all in pf, so they don't have to be outplayed or begin to 2nd guess themself on a scary flop.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: $22r - Bubble - Strange Spot

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Why you think someone with 25 bb's is raising any 2 from EP even on the bubble I can't figure out

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because he was... I know how strange it seems but he definitely was
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