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Old 05-25-2007, 07:21 PM
Rottersod Rottersod is offline
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"You got me" with pushing cards forward sounds like a concession. This action declares "I concede, you win."

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Player B shows a pair of aces and starts raking the pot in.

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It's player As responsibility to table his hand before the pot has been claimed. Player B gets the pot because Player A was a moron.

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Wrong-O.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:32 PM
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Conceding victory and pushing your cards in is a muck.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:37 PM
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This isn't a muck until the cards touch the muck. That verbal declaration isn't equivalent to "I fold".

Player A's pot, but he should be warned to be careful about his verbal actions and moves in the future.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:39 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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"You got me" with pushing cards forward sounds like a concession. This action declares "I concede, you win."

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Also wrong-o. What it sounds like and what it is are two different things.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:40 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Conceding victory and pushing your cards in is a muck.

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I disagree, depending on any past history of angle-shooting.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:43 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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A more interesting situation...

What if Player A does the same thing, then Player B says "Cool" and mucks, then starts raking the pot.

Does Player A's verbal "you got me" and his cards moving an inch forward constitute a fold, making his hand dead?

I think it does.

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No, but making a verbal declaration that causes an incorrect action behind you could make your hand dead.

If Player B did not show his hand before mucking, then he is warned to table his hand in the future and not to let go of his cards until the pot is in his possession.

Player A is warned that he might get ruled against in the future if he gets cutesy.
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:31 PM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: Request for a ruling

We had this discussion with a dealer at the Borg this past week. She said as long as the cards don't hit the muck they are still live if they are flipped before they hit the muck.

She said any good dealer will have their hand over the muck protecting it to make absolutely sure a player wants his or her cards to go in there.
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Old 05-26-2007, 01:09 PM
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Be very very careful when trying to go with any of these variations in a cardroom, as it varies everywhere.

Outside of that, listen to Larry and Rottersod regarding rulings.
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Old 05-26-2007, 01:39 PM
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Saying "You got me" is not a conceding anything. You can say "you got me" and still retain your hand, ie: "you got me, oh, you only have 9 high? I guess my King high is good, okay, I'll just go ahead and rake this pot in."
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:42 PM
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Ruling was correct, Player A never folded.
ON a side note, had it been me in players B position, I would of waited for player A either muck his hand or show it before tabling my aces.
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