STTF SNG->cash thread

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

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villain is 36/19/1.75 after about 150 hands. No real history or reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($0)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($662.10)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($619.88)</font>
UTG ($378)
MP ($537.42)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $16</font>, SB calls $14, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $75</font>, MP folds, SB calls $59.

Flop: ($166) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $154</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $308</font>, Hero ????

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I think you have to dump it to the CR, however, I think that most of the time I am not able to do so myself. Villain raised pf and CR flop. Seems pretty strong. The problem is that you're getting 4:1 to call, but the pot is getting huge. Since he has not done this to you before I lean towards giving him credit for his CR. The only hands you beat are JJ, AK, AQ and maybe some other pocket pair, but unlikely he has that imo. You're way behind 77,88, TT, KK, AA. Push w/ QQ, and AKh is getting odds, even if you reshove flop.

edit: Just read everyone else reply's... I guess KJhearts in in his range too, LOL my bad, missed that possibility [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[Slim Pickens]

SB is 19/15/3.8 through 310 hands and has a flop AF of 10.5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $115.60
UTG+1: $290.50
CO: $103.40
Button: $58.45
SB: $162.50
BB: $98

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $32</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $90.6</font>

[Slim Pickens]

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Results:

I thought for a second, re-evaluated stack sizes, and figured with the size of the pot and the texture of the flop, my equity was good enough to shove. So, that's what I did. He snap called and QQ&gt;KJhh.

I ran poker stove on this and unless his range is only sets, 2pr and straights, I'm better than the 31% equity I need for shoving to be correct.

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Does it make it easier or harder to call if he check/shoves?

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

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SB is 19/15/3.8 through 310 hands and has a flop AF of 10.5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $115.60
UTG+1: $290.50
CO: $103.40
Button: $58.45
SB: $162.50
BB: $98

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $32</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $90.6</font>

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I don't know Slim. I am really interested in what others have to say. This is an area where I remind myself small hand small pot, but find it is difficult to keep pot small while remaining in the hand. I find myself getting all-in same as you played it, especially w/ your read on villain's stats.

[K䲰䮥n]

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SB is 19/15/3.8 through 310 hands and has a flop AF of 10.5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $115.60
UTG+1: $290.50
CO: $103.40
Button: $58.45
SB: $162.50
BB: $98

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $32</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $90.6</font>

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I don't know Slim. I am really interested in what others have to say. This is an area where I remind myself small hand small pot, but find it is difficult to keep pot small while remaining in the hand. I find myself getting all-in same as you played it, especially w/ your read on villain's stats.

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3rd

Please, I'm realoading this thread every 2 mins.

[MikeMcQ1]

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SB is 19/15/3.8 through 310 hands and has a flop AF of 10.5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $115.60
UTG+1: $290.50
CO: $103.40
Button: $58.45
SB: $162.50
BB: $98

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $32</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $90.6</font>

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Shouldn't we just be in a call turn/call river mode here? Possibly value betting the river if he checks?

[cleinen]

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SB is 19/15/3.8 through 310 hands and has a flop AF of 10.5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $115.60
UTG+1: $290.50
CO: $103.40
Button: $58.45
SB: $162.50
BB: $98

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $32</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $90.6</font>

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Shouldn't we just be in a call turn/call river mode here? Possibly value betting the river if he checks?

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I have gone both ways on this hand. I am interested to see others comments as well

[K䲰䮥n]

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[ QUOTE ]
SB is 19/15/3.8 through 310 hands and has a flop AF of 10.5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $115.60
UTG+1: $290.50
CO: $103.40
Button: $58.45
SB: $162.50
BB: $98

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $32</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $90.6</font>

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Shouldn't we just be in a call turn/call river mode here? Possibly value betting the river if he checks?

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If we're normally call-call-call mode shouldnt we 3bet the flop in order to protect against (possible) draws?

[Jbrochu]

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Results:

I thought for a second, re-evaluated stack sizes, and figured with the size of the pot and the texture of the flop, my equity was good enough to shove. So, that's what I did. He snap called and QQ&gt;KJhh.

I ran poker stove on this and unless his range is only sets, 2pr and straights, I'm better than the 31% equity I need for shoving to be correct.

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Does it make it easier or harder to call if he check/shoves?

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It does for me. Either way you're playing for stacks if you continue with the hand and the shove weights villains range more towards the draws imo.

I'm a bit surprised at the pokerstove results Cha generated as I wouldn't have guessed QQ had that much equity there.

[microbet]

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Results:

I thought for a second, re-evaluated stack sizes, and figured with the size of the pot and the texture of the flop, my equity was good enough to shove. So, that's what I did. He snap called and QQ&gt;KJhh.

I ran poker stove on this and unless his range is only sets, 2pr and straights, I'm better than the 31% equity I need for shoving to be correct.

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I get you are 28.6% against 77+,AhKh,AhJh,KhJh,J9s,Th9h,T8s,87s,6h5h,J9o,T8o,8 7o

KhJh is a slight favorite with the gutshot, flushdraw and over. This has range has 99, JJ, AhKh and AhJh which are the other strong draw or combo hands. In order to go over 31% he does have to include some much less strong hands like 65o.