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A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
Dear 2+2ers-
Recently I heard that the Canterbury Park In Minneapolis raised the pot rake from $4 to $5. Although I visited couple of places in Los Angels and Atlantic City, I have no way to see the rake amount of each cardrooms. If someone can say the pot rake is NOT a big problem, then please read the paragraph below. It is simple to figure out how much a young man shall pay the life-time rake, who began poker at 25 and finish poker 55 and continue playing 1000 hours every year (say, as a regular player) The $5 rake is equivalent to hourly rake of about $25, for estimated 45 hands per hour. He pays $25K per SINGLE year and WILL PAY total $750K in his 30 years of poker life, except his tipping to dealers. Therefore, after CP raised from $4 to $5, the young man pay from $600K to $750K as his total life-time rake. So $1 increase shall charge him $150K more in his life. Here is what I know so far. ************************************************** ********** Commerce $5/$10 NLHE ($400buy) pot-rake $5 + $1(jackpot), $1 for no flop -> Average hourly charge is about $25 in the long run for average player, if 45 hands are played per hour. Commerce $15/$30 LHE $14 per hour Commerce $15/$30 LHE $14 per hour HollywoodPark $5/$10 NLHE ($400buy) pot-rake $4 + $1(jackpot), $1 for no flop -> Average hourly charge is about $20 in the long run for average player, if 45 hands are played per hour. Bicycle and HG charge almost same amount as HP. Borgata in Atlantic City $5/$10 NLHE ($1500buy) FIXED $10 per hour TajMahal in Atlantic City $15/$30 LHE FIXED $12 per hour PokerStars $2/$4 LHE 4 to 5 dollars per hour, based on my past 50 hour data with PokerTracker with 70 hands per hour. ************************************************** ********* Please add more information, if you have experience of other places. Correct any misinformation, if any. -Jay |
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
Turning Stone I believe is 10% up to $4, but I'm not sure if there is a jackpot drop. Would be great if they made this a sticky and everyone from around country posted all the card rooms so that it can be referred back to, a directory or something with rakes would be cool.
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
I found someone else made a similar posting before, as below.
LA's three major cardrooms are CLEARLY SHOWN at http://www.tworags.com/files/la%20comps.htm . The posting by EdmondDantes seems very valuable, especially for frequent travelers like me. It includes even game type, rough number of tables running at night and rake. -Jay |
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
I noted time charges on the 1/2 hour as that is when they collect them in atlantic city, i would assume CA is the same however i think its better to list on the half hour as some may think they pay it every hour and not the 1/2 hour. There is a slight difference as you would be sure you were staying almost the full hour if they collected on the hour and not the 1/2.
Atlantic City Limits I know: All Limit Holdem/Stud/Omaha 5/10 and under are 10% to $4. 10/20 LHE is $5 on the 1/2 hour. 10/20 Stud/Omaha are 10% to $4. 20/40 LHE/Stud is $7 on the 1/2 hour 1/2 NL is 10% to 4$ 2/5 NL varies, I have to investigate, will be down this weekend, but some places its 10% to $4 and others charge $5 ont the 1/2 hour. Borgata i believe is time. as noted above in Atlantic City $15/$30 LHE FIXED $12 per hour however i don't know of ANY place in AC that still spreads this game. My two favorite games used to be 15/30 LHE and 15/30 Stud, however they have recently gotten rid of them at the Taj and it goes 10/20,20/40.30/60,40/80 and i think they have gotten rid of 30/60 as well last time i checked. Correct me if i am wrong and please tell me where the 15/30 LHE games are in AC. |
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
To rubixxcube-
How about the rough number of tables running at night, in each games and places? -Jay |
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
Borgata 2/5 NL is $5 per half hour
Borgata 5/10 NL is $6 per half hour Borgata any raked game (1/2 NL, LHE under 10/20) is 10%, $4 max. No jackpots anywhere. |
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
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Correct me if i am wrong and please tell me where the 15/30 LHE games are in AC [/ QUOTE ] The Taj will spead $15-$30 if they have an interest list long enough. They spread the game about 3 months ago. |
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
More info from a friend-
Venetian 2/5 $100-1$000,10% upto $4 10/20 $800buy, $7/HH Bellagio 2/5 $200-$500, 10% upto$4 10/20 $800buy $7/HH 30/60 $500buy $6/HH 40/80 $800buy $7/HH 60/120 $1000buy $7/HH Foxwoods(100+ tables) 12 tables of $300buy(1/2) NLHE 6 tables of $500buy(2/5) NLHE Borgata 12 tables of $300buy(1/2) NLHE 6 tables of $500buy(2/5) NLHE Keep me posted. -Jay |
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
ummm your friend is wrong on the Borgata # tables - they'll spread more than that.
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Re: A survey on rake (time) in each B&M cardrooms
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Venetian 2/5 $100-1$000,10% upto $4 [/ QUOTE ] This is incorrect unless it recently changed last I knew it was $1 on $10/$20/$50/$90 |
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