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05-23-2007, 12:40 AM
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super tough spot! flop TPTK in bad position.
Second hand of the game, no reads on anyone yet. I dont know if the villan is rasing for free card or has a real hand. I also think MP is on a draw. Should i raise anywhere on the flop or on the turn? i know this is a super tough spot! need help!
Poker Stars Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.50/$1 9 players Converter Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, 3 folds. Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls. Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 3 players) Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>. 
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#3
05-23-2007, 12:44 AM
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Re: super tough spot! flop TPTK in bad position.
3bet the flop, and the spot becomes a lot easier.
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#5
05-23-2007, 12:55 AM
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Re: super tough spot! flop TPTK in bad position.
terence pls stop posting like 73 hands a day. 3-4 is plenty. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#6
05-23-2007, 12:56 AM
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Re: super tough spot! flop TPTK in bad position.
pussy gib.
Gib, I don't see why this flop specifically dictates waiting til the turn? Are you saying this because you expect the value of your hand to change dramatically or because you expect to extract more bets by waiting til the turn?
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#7
05-23-2007, 12:59 AM
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Re: super tough spot! flop TPTK in bad position.
when raised on the flop and you are OOP with a solid top pair or overpair on the flop ... almost always a 3bet (with position you have more options)
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#8
05-23-2007, 01:04 AM
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Re: super tough spot! flop TPTK in bad position.
[ QUOTE ]
pussy gib. Gib, I don't see why this flop specifically dictates waiting til the turn? Are you saying this because you expect the value of your hand to change dramatically or because you expect to extract more bets by waiting til the turn? [/ QUOTE ] yeah ... I can't see why you want to wait till the turn to raise ... maybe if K*(J or T)*(8 or 9) with two tone (and we don't have either)
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#9
05-23-2007, 01:04 AM
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Re: super tough spot! flop TPTK in bad position.
mainly cause of the limit I don't expect to be raised with a straight draw here, therefore I'd c/r the turn for value. Personally I play it either way depending on how I've played previously. Though I'm a little confused to why u think popping the turn is weak?
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#10
05-23-2007, 01:15 AM
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Re: super tough spot! flop TPTK in bad position.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] pussy gib. Gib, I don't see why this flop specifically dictates waiting til the turn? Are you saying this because you expect the value of your hand to change dramatically or because you expect to extract more bets by waiting til the turn? [/ QUOTE ] yeah ... I can't see why you want to wait till the turn to raise ... maybe if K*(J or T)*(8 or 9) with two tone (and we don't have either) [/ QUOTE ] I prefer 3betting the flop on a 2 tone board, rather than waiting for the turn. I find it easier to play on latter streets against predictable opps.
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