flush standard situation

[orange]

here is a pretty basic hand. what is your typical play on the river in these spots? how much do you bet, and if you do, do you fold to a raise? assume no reads and no image.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $632.35
BB: $192.00
UTG: $245.20
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $200.00</font>
BTN: $205.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $7.00, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($18) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22.00</font>, SB calls $18.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($62) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $50.00</font>, SB calls $50.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($162) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets ____________

[yid3655]

You have $80 in the pot already before the river so $120 behind. Difficult to make any sort of bet and then fold to a re raise against an unknown opponent (against a very solid player who i've played with a lot I could MAYBE find a fold). With so much money in the pot I also find it hard to imagine him check raising you on the river hardly at all, but obviously can never rule it out

My play would be to assume he has a AcQ/AcT/AcK/AcX/KJc (don't think he would be slow playing a set on this board) type hand so would make a bet of $80 &gt; $100. With I'd also think about running the clock down to just a few seconds, maybe faking a missed draw?

[BDaws]

Fold preflop.

Flop is good. Turn is good. Now shove river. Unfortunately, you are probably not going to get a call unless he had a flush draw with a T. I doubt he would weak lead with top pair, but if he had that he is probably calling as well.

[Seistrup]

Shove the river for value

[Novles]

I'd value shove the river with AQo, so I couldn't imagine doing anything diff w/ a floosh.

[ASPoker8]

def shove

[cbloom]

Sure shove

[fees]

I think we might be missing value by shoving

[Hattifnatt]

let timer go down and push.

[bilbo-san]

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Fold preflop.

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I propose a new forum rule where people are banned for an hour or two when they tell hero(s) to fold preflop when it is painfully obvious that Hero is stealing, unless they provide some amazing insight as to why folding would be better.

You can argue a lot about what hands are better than others to steal with, but there are tons of even less marginal hands than this that are +EV to open with in the CO.